Hello all were do we stand regarding the deleting of DPF as in ECU and the DPF itself, as everyone knows there a right pain up the arse

 

I think the new mot checks will lead to a fail if it is not working, I know loads have been deleted in the past.

 

Thanks, I think its the end for diesels myself, the government are going in that direction, I'm just thinking there must be loads of peeps had them professionally removed and it could now cost them thousands to replace or the cars worth nothing

 

I think petrol and diesel will get cleaner. The govt promoted diesel then taxed it, I suspect the same will happen with electric vehicles eventually.

 

My mk4 golf has the egr blanked off but the valve is still there and all plumbed in so it looks like it still has egr. Also the cat is removed. Mines a 2004 so I don’t think it is classed as a dpf. Passed it mot like that a few weeks ago anyway

 

That’s good to hear. I do think there are MOT tester differences and once you pass their attitude test and present a car nicely they go easier on you. I ALWAYS make sure that the car is washed and hoovered before I take it to them and I try to use the same company every time so they get to know you.

 

I read an article about this in the local paper last week it read like a lot of focus will be directed towards dpf egr looking for removals or signs of tampering welding ect any signs will be a fail

 

Yes, I saw something similar but wasn’t sure where I had read it....maybe on pistonheads?

I am sure we have some mot testers on here who can tell us more about what is coming.

 

What's the focus on diesel cars for?

A crackdown on diesel car emissions is evident in the new test. If your diesel car puts out any smoke whatsoever, it won’t pass its MOT examination.

Testers are also being told to do thorough checks of a car’s DPF (Diesel Particulate Filter) to ensure that they haven’t been tampered with – or removed entirely. The guidelines read that: “Any vehicles fitted with a DPF should be checked so that ‘no visible smoke is emitted from the exhaust during the metered check’.”

Some diesel drivers remove the filter to boost performance and increase miles-per-gallon, but since it regulates the exhaust gases produced by the engine, this isn’t the most ecological option.

It means that if a car was fitted with a DPF as standard, its removal would mean an instant MOT fail.

Since some drivers remove the internals of the DPF but keep the housing in place, testers are also being asked to check for tampering. That means that if there is any sign that the DPF has been disassembled and then welded back together, the car will fail the test.

 

Ok lets get honest about things,, most of the above means nothing , unless they make make it Law that they have to take the DPF completely off or they have other means of detecting that no DPF is present mot stations just don't have the time to mess about taking things to bits, I bet there are hundreds and thousands of cars getting passed that should have a DPF and don't,, a quick search on the net tells you that there are still shed loads of garages willing to De DPF and remap.. just like the mot cant detect if you have no cat on a diesel.. we were all told to buy diesels years ago and now we are told the opposite , they will also be loads of people not wanting to say anything on this forum that have no DPF .. also hundreds of people will have bought a diesel not knowing this has already been done and are just a innocent party..

 

I don’t think a lot of people on this forum are too shy to speak out about having dpf of not.

I hate the way people are manipulated by the government to dislike diesel after they gave tax breaks to get people in to diesels. I think electric suits the government as they already tax the hell out of electricity.

They will probably eventually tax the scrappage of all the batteries

 

Just passing on what I read don't really give a toss pal doesn't affect me

 

I think anything that can be done to get some of the diesel vehicles that chuck out clouds of stinking black smoke off the roads has got to be a good move. There are so many owners of diesels that just dont give a fuck about maintaining them properly and just ignore how much pollution they are causing.

 

I think the old stuff is probably quite dirty. I have seen some chipped modern cars be quite sooty. I think my Mini Cooper and my Range Rover are really clean.

 

Current law states it is illegal for drivers to use a car with the DPF removed.
Oddly it is not illegal for garages to remove them though.

 

Ah, the wonderful world we live in. Same as not illegal to clock a car, just illegal to knowingly sell it on with fake miles claimed.

Odd when it is illegal to sell someone a handgun in the uk, illegal to sell tobacco and drink to under age etc...seems the supply and use of get mixed up in law.

 

Well they have to get money for their aircraft carriers from somewhere so they can suck up America’s arse

Anyway I did read that if you wrap the DPF in exhaust heat wrap after it’s been butchered then it will be okay, I’m assuming they’re not allowed to remove it to check?

 

Too true

I like that solution

 

Agreed

 

Looks like its May 2018.. will be interesting to see what people will do with there DE DPF diesels

http://garagewire.co.uk/news/mot-dpf...dvsa-confirms/


my 2.2HDI is just starting all the DPF shit but I'm going to do the correct thing .. Sell it once its sorted

 

watch this funny as fuck

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bOl...ature=youtu.be

 

I am glad I have'nt got a diesel after watching that, did not realise what a pain in the ass the DPF can be!!!

 

 

neither will I pal, the thing is we were all conned years ago into believing that buying a diesel was the correct thing now its big shit and the government wont rid... as for DPF got to be one of the most complicated pieces of shit ever made ..

 

 

On large commercial applications, DPF are serviceable and they simply unclamp the headers and wash them out with a jet wash no reason this couldn't be done on light diesel, no different than washing your dyson filter lol

 

We have a garage found our way that I take a few Into and he's got the latest machine that'll clean out any dpf no matter how clogged, took a zafira in there that 2 places wanted to change the dpf and they tried it with their machine, he has some new type of machine only one in the country at the mo he says and that cleaned it out. He's so busy with it now that he's had to take on an extra member of staff just to run that service as the rest of the garage was suffering they were spending so much time doing them. Think he charges Ł250 which considering the price of a dpf isn't bad really

 

Do they need special equipment to clean or can you just soak them in petrol and then blast it with an airline or pressure washer?

 

He does it with the dpf still attached to the car but I'm not sure if u take the dpf to clean as never done it myself. I know my old boss took one off and steam cleaned it through and I think that worked on that car

 

 

We have to put them in a sealed bag and an exchange one is fitted. That’s if it’s through daf under warranty. If not a company picks it up and cleans it. Certainly not done with a jet wash lol

 

Probably jet washed by Daf then sent back in a new plastic bag with a 2 k bill lol

Bet you'd like her to clean your dirty DPF

 

I'm gonna buy a DAF truck if she will come and clean out my pipes