Now weres the pin hole to lock the crank on my 1.8d Van 2002 ?
I have looked high and low the manual says above the alternator and remove a plug ?

Thanks for now

 

I'll be doing this myself next week hopefully. As I understand it its a 10mm bold that you need to remove and insert the timimg pin Into.

Should be located somewhere above the alt. Haven't actually looked closely myself yet though

 

Yeah on the 1.8s there is a bolt that you remove behind the engine, insert a timing tool and turn the engine until it locks into position.

 

There is a gap between the block and the drive shaft pot joint O/S/F next to the bracket with the bearing in. You will see a 10mm bolt head and that's where the locking pin goes. Make sure you insert it right as it can sit just under the crank and that will not be the correct place for it. Also in the pin kit you get 3 pins so make sure you use the correct length pin.
My advice to you is if you have not done one before leave it alone and get someone who has because you could well kill a perfect engine.

 

Is this at the rear of the engine or at the front (rad side) i have done quite a few timing belt changes on French cars so im feeling confident...when i find the darn hole

 

Take the O/S/F wheel off and follow the drive shaft to the back of the block where the pot joint is and you will see the bolt head sticking out the block mate.

 

Thanks bigjohn0 i will have another look in the morning and post back ..cheers

 

1.8d is in front of engine.

if the alternator has an extra shaft going to it (the alternator is not inline with the belt) the shaft needs taking off before you can get to the 10mm bolt .

Escorts usually need alternator taking off tho?

 

1.8D are at the front. At the cambelt side of the engine. There is a 10mm bolt that needs taking out and this is where the timing peg go's. Not sure if anything needs taking off to get to the bolt. Been a while since I've done one.

1.25,1.4,1.6 and 1.7 fiesta,focus and. Puma engines are at the back by the driveshaft.

 

http://ww2.justanswer.com/uploads/seanw4425/2012-03-25_075758_time1.jpg

 

Now i am even more confused

 

It's under the injection pump.

As I say, on the Focus/Connect there is an extra shaft going to the alternator which needs removing. I've not done an Escort for ages either, but think they just have the alternator inline with the belt.

I did actually take the time to post the whole prodedure for you on another thread..

https://passionford.com/forum/genera...ver-issue.html

 

THIS....

 

This is the pin installed but with the alternator and alternator mounting bracket removed.


Correct flywheel locking tool with starter removed


Alternator bracket removed (shown for reference)


Below, you can just make out the alternator shaft extender and may be able to see the alternator mounting bracket. You can thread the pin in with the support bracket still on but it is tricky and it only take five minutes to take the bracket off.




LOL.... did I mention I am flogging the proper timing pin / bar / puller / locker kit for this engine





It is in the for sale non ford or other bits, search under my name.

 

I'm pretty sure the Escort doesn't have the alternator in the centre as Focus/Connects do.

But without seeing it, I'm not sure as it's a late one. (2002)

It is possible to do the Focus/Connect by just taking the extender shaft off the alternator, but the 10mm bolt can be easily dropped in the bracket

Mr magnet required!

 

That is why I chose to take the bracket off. Also behind the bracket it is usually covered in gritty oily crap that I clean off as I don't want it going into the engine when you put the pin in.

A lot of people don't even bother timing the TDDI up and simply slip the belt on and off. Bad show I say.

 

Thanks for the replies...GVK thanks for the detailed post you put up for me...as said on the tread its the wrong engine...Its the pre-95 engine and mines 2002 Van ,so this got me a little confused.
The camshaft locks at the other side and diesel pump doesn't look or lock, like the diagram you put up...the pulley is different.

Well the pin plug must be behind the alternator bracket i will take it off tomorrow.

I do have a fair bit of experience with timing belt changes but never done a Ford hence the help needed.

This :
Its really important that you have experience with said engines before posting information to newbies to follow as following wrong advice could kill a perfectly good engine.

My advice to you is if you have not done one before leave it alone and get someone who has because you could well kill a perfect engine.

 

If it is a pre 95 engine then it will have two belts, a cam belt and a pump belt.

From memory you shouldn't have any alternator access issues to get the pin in.

You will need to lock both the cam and the pump though.

Also make sure any idlers and plastic pullies are replaced with metal ones. This should have been done at some point in the past as it is quite old. Back in the day the nylon / plastic pulleys used to fail a lot on these and cause all sorts of havoc.

 

Hi Colin my engine is post 95 its 2002 reg Van 1.8d but it does have 2 belts.The Gates Kit i bought does have a plastic idler and 2 metal pulleys.

The engine also has a plastic idler and metal pulleys are you saying the they should all be metal ?

I will be out doing the van tomorrow looking for that darn pin hole...Its amazing because the radiator is out and i have a full view of the front of the block and still cannot see the 10mm plug to remove

I will keep you all posted cheers

 

It has been at least ten years since I did a set of belt on one of those so the memory is a bit foggy.

From what I remember though, you won't find a pin hole on the block!

You lock the cam and the pump by inserting pins through the sprockets as far as I can remember. (Cam sprocket and pump sprocket respectively).

Also mark the crank position once the outer pulley is off as (from vague memory) that doesn't lock.

I cannot comment on the plastic pulleys but do remember getting a set of metal ones for mine back in the day.... must have been 12-13 years ago now, not 10. Maybe they have improved the quality.

 

Right then if anyone asks the Crank Plug on post 96 1.8d engines is hidden behind the alternator bracket ...Its impossible to see from any angle and the Haynes manual doesn't mention it What chance do we have

 

Did you get the belts changed then ?