So i buy the box in said thread:

https://passionford.com/forum/ford-r...t-gearbox.html

The guy then tells me after i fit it its never been tested since he had it back off the company and its my problem now even tho its was 'sold to me' as a fully working box.....

DON'T buy from this guy used other members to vouch for him to say he was a decent guy and wont be any issues if there were problems then when i fit it and realise it doesnt work he doesnt wanna know.

I am however looking into taking the matter along the legal line.

 

So what doesn't work on it ?

 

ive got a feeling this will be several pages long by the time i get back from work tonight.
bummer for so much money though.that would be worth the drive for a visit to sort it out.

 

Read this on the escos site,not good mate,hope you get it sorted.

 

Annoys me because there's no need. He would have the box back........ Through his windscreen on his car lol

 

It won't select 4th gear

 

WTF why would you even sell something thats not working correctly without telling people.

As said there is no need for that unless your just after ripping someone off.

 

dont know the seller personally but if you have contacted him and gone through the civil options to no avail, Your next step is the legal one as your stated in your initial post and Im sure all of PF wish you a succesful outcome with this, there is good and bad sellers on every forum.

 

Not good Adam.

 

says fully reconditioned and working in the ad

 

What a twat!
I hope you get that sorted out mate, totally unacceptable!

 

PM Matt rs he will recover your losses,as to the guy who tucked you up he will be banned very shortly

 

Yes I have i kept it quiet for 2 weeks he said he would sort it when I knew what was up with the box fully this weekend I knew fully and have tried to settle this nicely I don't like to do things publicly like this but I have been forced to do this due to his answer of its 'my problem' attitude worse things is pete offered to fix the box for 500 and this guy chris didn't even pay 1500 for the box off his mate. His mate sold him the box with them both aware of the problems and said I have sold it you cheap so there's no come backs, now surely he'd cut his losses and get it repaired by the guy who makes them seen as he's still quids in... However he don't give a shit. I don't like to turn the site into a argument however I had no option so i apologise but I hope I have some support as said from the mods/owners on this one. Had I been told the truth on the box id have never bought it. I

 

What do you mean mate?

 

Hope you get this sorted out mate, just no need for it.

 

PM sent

 

What a cunt , you have the evidence to go small claims court route, it will be hassle but you WILL win, get the emails & threads printed off ASAP. Ad give me a ring if you want a hand with this.

No point banning the user as it means he cannot reply on here, just restrict his buying/selling privileges?

 

go get the money back m8 dont let him f you over face to face is the only way to sort stuff like this....

 

i dont think he will come back online for a while,it is wrong to rip people off i always look on this site as a community and would never dream of selling faulty goods without telling everyone,whats the point it only comes back to bite you,if it had been me who was ripped off by Ł1500 i would total his car and then him

 

evidence is printed will. i have it here ready. my mate just qualified as a solicitor i rang for some friendly advice and he assures me when i showed him the pm's of him admitting it was falsely advertised that i will be fine and win hands down .

 

you do as we are ford enthusiasts too and no need for a apology as we all would do the same as it leaves a bitter taste in all our mouths.

 

Ive locked the sellers origonal post for evidence if you need it, he cant deleted it now

 

can i praise the mods for the swift action.
i have bought from members on here without any problems, however i have bought from other sites and been ripped off. luckily the mods on the other site are on the case as well. i would name and shame but i cant find him on here.

 

Hope this gets sorted.

 

I can vouch for the members and mods on here because of the help and support that's been offered to me over my car, just a shame there's the odd bad egg out that are out to rip people off!!

 

Devils advocate mode, no doubt I'll get slated by the usual suspects etc but the way I see it from a quick read of that thread:

Doesnt sound like the seller knew anything about the problem when he sold you the box.
He bought the box in good faith, and sold it in good faith thinking it was working.
If its not working now, he's been tucked up himself just as much as you have.

Crap situation, bit unfair on the seller if he bought and sold something in good faith and knew nothing about the issues and now is somehow considered to blame for the fact it doesnt work which he had no way on earth of knowing about? Not his fault at all is it?

I dont see how the seller can be expected to do anything about it other than refer you back to the person he got it from TBH?

 

the only way that would be acceptable is if its bought as untested so cant gaurantee condition.

 

Shame there's still so many cunts in the world.
GENERALLY,this is a really cracking website where the decent members 100% back each other with a problem but as with anything else you do get a few bad apples chancing stuff probably in the hope that you'd change your mind fitting it,pass it on then he could claim "it worked when I had it".
I've said it for sometime on here and nothing's ever been done but IMO we should have a proper classified ads system where you have to provide the mods with a valid address,preferably landline number and bank details/proof of address,at least then if the parts were miss sold theres a paper trail to show where the bits have come from.
If your a genuine seller then why not do it?
The site makes it impossible for anyone who's had any association to the motor trade in some way or another past or present to sell goods unless they subscribe to business rates,which generally are too high if your not a full time business,but with paid classified ads the site gets some cash rather than eBay and the buyer knows there's a comeback route if the goods are wrongly described,which they clearly were in this case.
As usual,the mods are doing their best to sort it which is superb,just goes to show that this is a true community website but if banning him and offering the services of someone to collect the debt is the sites only route of comeback then something seriously needs too change.

 

read the add, he is stateing all just rebuilt new synchros cost Ł770, if thats the case he could return the box to the rebuilder to be repaired, it certainly appears dodgy.....

 

Chip may I suggest you go and read the origonal sales advert in the pasrt room,it "clearly" states the seller has had the box rebuilt having had bearings and syncros replaced

 

Is that not true then? It says further down the thread that Iain has a receipt from Charles Butler transmissions for that work.

 

if the seller has been tucked up its his liability to reclaim shoddy or non completed work not simply pass it on with a stated mechanical condition which clearly it was not hence this thread

 

Let me be the first to disagree!!!!
I know your only paying devils advocate cos your a good lad chip but the blame now lies solely with the last person to sell it as he's selling as good,the ad says "he" drove it 1000 miles in "his" car with no issues which was not the case.
The last person in line needs to refund whoever he sold it too then chase the boy HE bought it off to get his refund.
Same as of you buy something like a tv off a shop etc,you get your refund from the shop then they chase the manufacturer/their supplier for the difference.
Ok,it's second hand parts and you always take a gamble so it's obviously not quite that cut and dried,but leocos clearly sold this box on as good when as scoobyslayer stated should have been sold as untested albeit then at a far lower price.

 

I saw that, it sounds like the problem is that work was commissioned by "Iain" and then the box went to the seller, and now onto Adam, so its changed hands twice since that company saw it.

To me the logical resolution would be for the seller to put Adam in contact with this Iain, and hope he is a decent chap (no idea who he is) and will help out with taking it back to the company that did the work to get it fixed?

The guy adam bought it off, sounds like he is just stuck in the middle and never personally had anything to do with the box?

 

the seller also says hes had it in his car for 1100 miles. correct me if i am wrong but i think he would have noticed fourth gear being fucked.

 

Just noticed this post:

Actually I agree with you then, he really is making it sound there like he has personally driven it, although not explicitly stating it, he says its done 1100 miles and then comments on the power of his own car, he doesnt give any indication at that point the 1100 miles was done in someone elses car.

So he's been quite misleading there.

Apologies, Id only read the initial add and then the bit with the copied in PM, I had missed that slyly worded one in the middle.



Seller needs to be giving a refund, and then chasing up the guy he got the box off or the company that rebuilt it for a refund himself then by the sounds of it as he was indeed selling it giving the impression he knew it to be working from personal experience when he didnt.

 

As per say chip i know you get stick on here however i will try to fill few blanks in as i didnt want this thread to get 'messy'

Iain sold it toe chris knowing there could potentially be a issue so he sold it to him considerably CHEAPER than what i paid for it, on the terms theres no come backs he knows what he is buying could be a problem. even if chris did or didnt use the box, he lied and sold it as 'used for 1100 miles working fine'

he then as per pm ADMITS he never tested it therefore misrepresented the sale saying its in good working order, well how can he know if he never tested it? tbh i think we all got screwed here HOWEVER the seller has a duty to the buyer to give the correct information to the best of their knowledge and if there is a problem to rectify it....

He's basically told me tough shit its not his problem i must have broken it as 4th gear was never a issue however the mechanics have only run the box in the air on axel stand to check it works and it clearly doesn't....

hope this helps clear up some blanks

also edit to say by screwed i mean i dont blame iain here i think the company clearly either didnt spot the problem or didnt know how to fix it the company are really IMO to balme here but chris should be resolving this knowing whjat he bought and the FULL STORY..

 

Beaten to it

 

Adam, cheers for the clarification mate, it just looked like (because I obviously didnt read the original post well enough) like some poor fella had bought and sold it on not knowing there was an issue, but clearly that isnt the case.

 

m,atters nor what it says further down the thread its the intial desciption in the very first advert that matters,thats what the Op bought it on,the seller is obviously a lying cunt who has tucked up this lad