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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 08:12 AM
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thanks lads for the ones that helped me out.. was appreciated

right, car was booked in today for some general maintenance at the garage.. check a few things out and Ive gone to start it, and the fooker will not start

Definatley has fuel
Is cranking over fine
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But doesnt want to seem to start, you know when it doesnt fire

Any ideas people... the feul pump is priming
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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 08:20 AM
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spark??
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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 08:24 AM
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moisture in the dissy cap? as keith said Spark?? maybe ya flooded it?
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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 08:25 AM
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Take ya air filter of and make sure the flap in the Air flow meter moves
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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 08:25 AM
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gonna go and remove one of the plugs... see if theres a spark. Cheers lads
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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 08:26 AM
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tried that Max re: flap Still movement in it. Did happen once before tho, think it got stuck, and prevented it from starting
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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 08:28 AM
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mines having very similar problems and even with a tow it wouldnt start. been told it could be the fuel distributor thats gone

edit: this was after the engine started first time about an hour b4 and the engine was still luke warm wen we had to tow it
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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 08:33 AM
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its FUCKING COLD out today... cold enuf so that you may actually need the cold start valve working! lol

has yours been removed?

altho saying that, it should still catch...
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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 09:09 AM
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cold start not connected..

just checked for spark... and no spark could be that i let the plug get a litle wet tho as its snowing here but, seems to be no spark.. So whats next chaps
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HAIRDRYER!!
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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 09:15 AM
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ive actually already thought about that blow it over the distributor???

Im serious by the way Must be mad, fookin tonsilitus and outside in this weather, thats dedication Sreriously tho, what should i do, cant see it being the dissy as i only replaced that for a new one before i went a way
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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 09:54 AM
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i've tried mine today. theres a spark, but not a brilliant one. cleaned the contacts on the dissy to no avail. battery is now charging on mine as it was notably drained after numurous (sp) attempts to start it
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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 09:58 AM
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annoying hey

Checked spark, no spark... but spark from coil is o.. so got to be either cap, arm or dissy Been down halfords and as usual in stock so gonna replace the car and arm, so if it helps
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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 10:17 AM
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tell me about it lol. taking an injector out tomorro to see if the fuel distributor is working ok. if that is, then i'm stumped and my knowledge exhausted
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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 10:26 AM
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best of luck mate with it

Just changed the distributor cap and still no joy Is the rotor arm awkward to change???
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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 10:29 AM
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rotor arm just pulls off mate
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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 10:30 AM
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cheers max, gonna go and give it a tug
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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 11:18 AM
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paul whats the weather like? has the snow settled?
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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 11:38 AM
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no mate.. just got soaked in a horrific hail storm tho

not settled at all, in fact this morning was covered and its all gone now
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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 11:39 AM
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gonna be a boring drive home later then
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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 11:44 AM
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All CVH's (and Zetecs for that matter) are favourites for losing a lot of voltage thru bad leads. This always shows up in starting when cold/damp .. The old favourite for a CVH that was iffy to start in the cold/damp, was to change the cap/leads, and check the R Arm for tracking/burning.

Also, the amplifier can just fail "out of the blue" If you stressed it in some way, plus it got cold/wet, this also could have failed (about tenner from factors)
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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 11:48 AM
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al bags - cheers mate

when you say, amplifier, what do you mean exactly

arm and cap changed, still no joy.. so going to change plugs and leads Tehn
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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 11:59 AM
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mines the same and has been since july of last year

was out in 3inch of snow last night trying to figure it out, may be your dizzy, as for the amplifier i thnik there ment to be on the dizzy but mine aint got one!!


good luck

so far i ahve checked
plugs
leads
coils
batteries
ecu;s
fule injection unit

and still fook all
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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 12:02 PM
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all bags if theres tracking/burning on your rotor arms whats that mean apaart from its fooked, what causes it.

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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 12:03 PM
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i was hoping to get it sorted soonish, like today

Best of luck with it.. are you getting fuel??
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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 12:11 PM
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yeah no probs with the fuel at all

jsut dont wana go, i have been to it could be the sigma alarm but dont wana go hacking that up just yet

fookin thing,, now its a very expensive garden ornament and dog piss target.
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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 01:24 PM
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Burning/cracking of the rotor arm means either coil overvoltage (which is unlikely) or arcing heat damage (like you get on the brush holders/commutators in the vacuum cleaner or power drill) Usually a poor contact prob, oil, or very high resistance in lead set (very wide plug gaps could even help cause it)

Most cases, just fit a new decent Rotor Arm mate
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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 02:56 PM
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ahhh

was probably the oil then, the dizzy seal leaks a little bit so you get a ting bit of oil in the cap sometimes, but got new dizzy now but cant get the fooker to start

ta very muccle
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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 03:01 PM
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Got it started Thought, fook it, change the plugs Whacked em in, and fired up 1st time 10 quid fix... Well chuffed.. Oh well, its got new rotor arm and dizzy cap too...!

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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 03:20 PM
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it was the plugs bit strange all 4 failing at the same time But atleast it ya got it fixed and it's always worth changing the dizzy cap and rotor arm. and the fact that the rotor arm snapped when you removed it is dodgy
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the reason it snapped is probably because of the way i removed it but your right, worth changing anyway. I think it was flooded So rather than clean the existing plugs, easier just to change them

I always assume the worst... bonus when its a cheap fix Cheers for you help mate
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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 03:56 PM
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nice one mate. gonna try the plugs option tomorro just gonna go a like for like swap i think.

what spec you running westy? did u use standard ford plugs then?
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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 04:05 PM
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just a low comp 1600 mate

Plugs were replaced for the same ones that came out.. NGK's from Halfords.. handle 18psi fine

good luck in getting it running.. Right pain in the arse arent they, especially when you have no patience like me

Check fuel and immobiliser too
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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 04:16 PM
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glad you sorted it westie! look foward to seeing it buzzing round town !!
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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Westy
just a low comp 1600 mate
Check fuel and immobiliser too
i know i've got fuel mate, as theres fuel gushing out the filter when u turn it over and because it turns over, i know the immobiliser is fine

gonna bang some new plugs in tomorro and see how that goes
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