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Old Mar 9, 2012 | 06:32 PM
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Is megasquirt any good on a yb?

This is for sale locally
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=455941960
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Old Mar 23, 2012 | 09:39 AM
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I am just about to try it on my Ex Thunder Saloon Tarmac Rally Car it works fine on the Bench tests with all the peramiters set but will be starting this weekend and let you know

If you need the pin out from the IAW Webber to the to the MS3 + MS3X let me know and I will send you them with some photo's
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Old Mar 23, 2012 | 10:53 AM
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Give Chip a shout, he works with MS a lot.
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Old Mar 23, 2012 | 11:07 AM
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Tide seems to be turning with MS. Wasn't so long ago you'd have been condemned for suggesting it. Been in a few cars running it now and it does seem to work pretty well.
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Old Mar 23, 2012 | 11:22 AM
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Tide seems to be turning with MS. Wasn't so long ago you'd have been condemned for suggesting it. Been in a few cars running it now and it does seem to work pretty well.
The only reason the tide is turning, is because it is now being sold in a built form with features already there.
Before the boards/cases were messy, I still say using a printer connector is cheap very poor quality for the models that do still use it.

I see instructions about having to use resistors and capacitors externally etc and for some features on lower models, you need to add extra components or boards.

IMO that's just far too messy with potential for problems. If you're happy with that, then it can be a good solution. But I dont want to be messing about with multiple boards and connectors/wiring when it isnt necessary

There are fully built ecu's with full warranty and support for not a huge sum of money these days using quality connectors throughout.

MS do seem to be catching up on the quality and completeness aspect though. The more they do, the more widespread and accepted it's use will become. Selling them as fully built and spec'd units with proper terminals and connectors was the best thing they could do.

But the MS2 in the advert still looks like the old printer connector. Wouldnt be my first choice.

How much is a fully built MS3 in NZ ? It would make more sense ?
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Old Mar 23, 2012 | 01:23 PM
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No Problem with connectors on my MS3+MS3X they are DB37 as you call them Printer Connectors but I can assure you that the connectors have been used and tested in more arduous environments than a car I am happy to use them in my Rally Car
The box I have from ExtraEFI is very impressive and so far the the build quality seems as good as Pectel which I have used in the past
The main benefits are the PRICE and the ability to programme and re-programme when ever you change anything on the Vehicle including Traction Control/Anti-Lag/Water Injection/ Flat Shift/Launch Control (1,2 and 3 Stage)Dual Fuel (When we finally get E85) plus any new ideas that you can find on the Forums and add for FREE by just updating the firmware will Pectel do that for FREE?

My Advice would be give it a try and teach yourself something it is quite easy when you get through the acronyms that the TUNERS use to confuse the common man and charge a fortune for there services
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Old Mar 23, 2012 | 01:24 PM
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Megasquirt always used to be a bit of a geeky projecty type thing. The same sort of people as me that used to race r/c cars etc were the sort of nerds that loved faffing about with soldering a board together and spending hours poring over which resistor had blown.

If your looking to professionally finish a car I don't think it's for you. If you fancy a muck about with trying to get your own management running and enjoy problem solving it's a good laugh.

There seems to be a divide between those that are looking to enjoy the finished car, and those that enjoy the build and would only sell it when its finished to start the next one.
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Old Mar 23, 2012 | 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by mobb-black
Megasquirt always used to be a bit of a geeky projecty type thing. The same sort of people as me that used to race r/c cars etc were the sort of nerds that loved faffing about with soldering a board together and spending hours poring over which resistor had blown.

If your looking to professionally finish a car I don't think it's for you. If you fancy a muck about with trying to get your own management running and enjoy problem solving it's a good laugh.

There seems to be a divide between those that are looking to enjoy the finished car, and those that enjoy the build and would only sell it when its finished to start the next one.
If you think they are not a professional finish I will post some pictures of my ExtraEFI and the Jury Box that we have built they are as good as the IAW Webber I have
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Old Mar 23, 2012 | 10:17 PM
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I reckon I will steer clear of it and save my pennies for a superior system.
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Old Mar 23, 2012 | 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by kiwikermit
I reckon I will steer clear of it and save my pennies for a superior system.
All boils down to your level of ability. Many thousands of people do use various models of MS successfully, so there is no doubt they can and do work.

It just isnt for everyone. But more important, is who will be installing and tuning it. If you cant do this yourself, you need a system your local tuner is happy to work with.
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Old Mar 24, 2012 | 12:18 AM
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i totally support what has been said positively about megasquirt, been great for my engines over the last three to four years.
however you do need to be prepared to learn a lot about engine management, if you get it wrong, it could be fatal.
so if you are prepared to learn and i mean lots of hours not a ten minute crash course then go for it DB37 connectors are fine, no need for anything more fancy, just don't expose to water and ensure screws hold it tight.
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Old Mar 24, 2012 | 07:00 AM
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when MS is built and mapped correct it is an amazing bit of kit, but the amount of people that have already put R&D into it is massive.

would like to see what a YB will do,

i know of a Pinto turbo that cracked 300bhp on a largley STD internal`d turbo motor
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Old Mar 24, 2012 | 11:13 AM
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Full on power is easy to map, it's the light throttle that's a pain, very little in top end power across different managements.
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Old Mar 26, 2012 | 10:40 AM
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Just had another upgrade to the Firmware and the Tuner Studio Operating Software All FREE after the original Purchase Price (of not very much) how many other ECU manufacturers do that ?

Also with the VE Analyse for you software with-in the Tuner Studio Programme you can run the car in part throttle cruise and it will fill the VE Map so that you can trim and clean were it is required

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Old Mar 26, 2012 | 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Blades Rally Team
Just had another upgrade to the Firmware and the Tuner Studio Operating Software All FREE after the original Purchase Price (of not very much) how many other ECU manufacturers do that
I'm guessing you haven't used too many ecus ?

It would be easier to list the ones who don't.
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