With the threads on diesels and performance on here recently it has got me wondering as to where high performance cars will be heading in the future with everything becoming more environmental and emissions based. Where do we think the future is? There are a number of car makers now downgrading to smaller petrol engines with electric motors giving an extra boot but do we think high performance diesels will be the future?

Undoubtedly, BMW's 3.0 units found in a number of cars and also in twin turbo form like in the 335/535 diesels are INCREDIBLE engines even in stock form, they produce as much power as a standard Evo (280 model) and with massive torque and when mapped can produce over 350bhp which let's be honest is not to be scoffed at! Forget being used to Cossies and being used to 300-400bhp being the norm, 350bhp on today's roads on an every day journey is A LOT of power. So BMW and Audi have great 3.0 litre diesel units and so have Mercedes but are we going to see more 6cyl and 8cyl high performance diesel motors being used in sports cars? Is the future going to be an Audi R8 with Audi's V12 TDI engine? Are we going to have more hybrid performance cars or high powered diesel cars? What would you prefer to see?

 

Turboed Small petrols and sports smoker look to be the way but I think that cars are heavy with all the xtras we all like on them , so getting the weight down will be the next thing , with kers like systems and a better form of battery tec is a must but I dont mind what is next as long as they still do " A drivers car "

 

Performance cars???

In the future it'll be hovercraft.

 

will by hybrid performance cars - honda has already started doing this

 

I think this as well, Honda have release the CR-Z hybrid hot hatch, has about the same power as an 1.6 N/A but returns 60mpg, and they have a hybrid NSX concept in the work where it has a V6 to drive the rear wheels and an electric motor to drive all 4 as a boost. It harvests energy from the inside front wheel when cornering as well to help pull it round a corner.

 

Thats proper old tech, surely the future will be telepotation



Tho the current way for example is the new M5, smaller more efficient engine, ok its a 4.4 twin turbo, but better emisions and more power, so its all good

 

I think Audi made one, that got very hot and caught fire!

 

BMW's new Tri turbo diesel should be very interesting indeed.

 

the way the goverment are going with shoeing everyone at every turn we be lucky to have any cars,let alone performance ones,especially when they start putting adblu on them aswell which will mean you have to pay fuel,roadtax,insurance and adblu and mot,going to be a very dear do cos i cant see adblu not getting taxed.

 

Beam me up Scotty! I still think Hovercraft would be cooler!

 

whats adblu?

 

adblu is a urea and water mix that is currently being put in lorrys,buses and vans under the pretence that it lowers your roadtax,but if you add the cost of buying adblu up all year its cheaper afaik to just carry on paying tax,bmw are trialling adblu at the min but its burning the tips of the injectors so they trying to sort that,you usually need a full tank of adblu to 3tanks of fuel in a lorry and at the min its 30p ish a litre but when its mainstream on cars you can guarntee that fucker will rocket up.

 

Why would it be burning the injector tips, as it is injected into the exhaust system isn't it? Or is it different on lorries?

 

not sure me howd,just what i got told like to be fair,it goes into exhaust system on lorries but the adblu has got to be kept perfectly clean like or it fucks the filters up which are the right side of 2grand.

 

Its added after the combustion process to reduce emissions.

 

Linky for more info or care to elaborate please?

I for one would like to see some more development being done on diesel engines to make them rev up to 6-7k and also having usable power up there too not have everything up to 4k and then nowt after that.

But it seems car makers now are still opting for petrol with electric motors for extra power.

 

How much does this lower emissions by then? And can it be used in a petrol engine?

Just had a thought pop into me head that swapping the cat around come MOT may not be needed no more

 

How far into the future?

Hydrogen power .. Fill with water, Add voltage to the water, extract Hydrogen & Oxygen .. Mix and burn to produce water ..

At the moment it uses more energy to extract H & O2 than it produces So you have to use pure Hyrdrogen thats fucking lethal ..

Dynamic braking bla bla

But who knows what the future holds?

 

not sure mate ive never really looked into it,only mentioned it cos i work for a firm producing the stuff, im really not sure about petrol engines.

 

How come diesels don't rev high?

Is it because it can't combust fast enough?

 

The crank shaft in general has more throw = Torque much

 

it works on compression to produce the bang rather than ignition of a combustible source if that makes sense and it's the limit of how fast it can do it at around 5k

 

it lowers it buy alot lol but its only there to neutralise harmfull nox particals that modern diesel engines make so no use with petrol

 

there is no reason at all for it to burn injecter tips lol and yes its injected into the exhaust system before the cat after a certian level of nox has been picked up by the nox sensor

 

Some info on BMW's new tri turbo diesel.

http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsAr...llCars/261082/

 

no its because it has a slower frame progression


i think to answer the question we need to ask how far are we looking into the future.
DERV short term (maybe the next 10 years)
but after that we have to use hydrogen, but as explained because its so reactive it always bonded to something else (like oxygen to form water) and to brake this bond uses energy,
we need a viable way of mass producing quantities of hydrogen, but there isnt an answer as yet,

the true energy form will be Nuclear fusion, but sadly this technology isnt complete yet (even though they have had reactions with a NET gain). these reactors with be uses to drive steam generators to produce electricity, maybe to be used in electrolysis plants to produce hydrogen,

 

Addblue is injected into the exhaust to turn harmfull gasses into hamless gasses.On the wagons that are in my fleet there is always problems with the injector blocking up.