i have t3 beige injectors uprated fuel pump etc just wondered how much bhp these chips push to am already at 190 at 15 psi

 

you'll need bigger injectors for a start to see any more mate, cossie t3 will flow more power too.

grant

 

Don't know about that mate, my brothers was making 211bhp on beiges and (waiting for the doubters to shout) made 207bhp on the stock blues at TOTD after it's rebuild.

 

i believe u mate beiges top out at 215-220 depending on how good there jetting just wondered if anyone had one of these chips on ive got everything to back up more power if i got 200 bhp id be happy am on mhale pistons etc nothing really exciting head is stage 2 with chv35 cam vernier pulley and stage 2 t3 turbo how much boost do u think i should be putting through it or is it to much already

 

grant, noticed ur car has been mapped by ma developments how much did that set u back and wot did u gain ?

 

We were running my brothers at 20psi on a totally stock bottom end for the 211bhp. Mate of mine would not set a customers car up like that but knew we didn't care if it went bang as the bits had been collecting for a while for the new build and none of this engine was to be reused. Nice surprise is it lasted over a year and wasn't any problem when we took it to bits

 

ive been running mine on 15 psi for 3 years and the block is still like new. just wondered if ma development alter the boost with these chips dont really understand where they wud get more power from without turning boost up

 

I was running a 1.9 cvh with stage 3 head, cvh34 cam, beiges, 2wd cossie turbo, cossie fuel pump, 2wd cossie front mount and a custom map by msd.
I left the car with them for a week and they mapped it out on the road and made adjustments etc.
It was running 16 psi when I got it back and they estimated it was around 230bhp. I never had it rolling roaded so couldn't prove/confirm this (felt rapid btw! lol). I raced an evo 6 and he could'nt leave me whatsoever, dunno what spec it was.

Ive always read on here beiges top out around 195/200 bhp.

Oranoco that must've been running massively lean on standard blues at that power? And surely shat itself?


MSD can map your rst to well over 200bhp on frst management if you want but you'd have to upgrade injectors for a start, then the rest of the engine would have to be up to spec to handle the power (steel rods/forged pistons).
You'd need a diff turbo if your on a rst t3, cossie t3 flows better and youd need a good front mount.
It really depends on the spec of your engine with regards to what you'll see from a re-map by them.
They do, do mail order chips where you tell them the spec and send you a chip but with a custom map they will spend more time perfecting the chip to suit your engine.
A custom map is Ł350

HTH

Grant

 

mine made 212bhp on 701's at 16psi at jamsport, my clutch died on the rollers though.. recons it could have made maybe 6-7bhp more if the clutch had stayed decent??

 

You would have to adjust the boost mate, I think with the mail order chips they would tell you what psi to set it to.
I highly reccommend getting a custom map tho, I taking mine back onece the zetec turbo is installed!

Grant

 

am wanting to go to zetec as i am at the limits with the cvh with standard bottom end. only problem is can i be arsed rebuilding and messing around and altering the car to put a zetec in be nice if i could find one already built up and ready to drop straight in haha

 

If you want more power id go zetec tbh, thats what ive done. Keep checking all the sites and a good engine will turn up at a reasonable price. Ive bought a zecond hand zt that was in a 400+bhp mk3 fiesta built by devil developments at a fairly good price.
I'm only planning to run around 300bhp as that'll be plenty in a mk2 fiesta but bottom end is capable of 500bhp!

Grant

 

Lean yes but not showing any signs of anything dangerous, Chris recomended we backed the boost off which we duely did. Engine was spot on and had only just been run in in preperation of the new injectors, management and custom map, which still haven't found there way onto the car, once sorted we are aiming for the magical 300 with it

 

Im no expert at mapping mate, hence the reason I pay to have it done but I would'nt have risked running blues at that power. Who was mapping it?

grant

 

lean is dangerous ?? lol i must admit am really surprised out of blue injectors, am keeping my eyes open for zetec but then i think may aswel fuck it for the hassle its worth and get a cossie lol

 

run massiveley lean and you'll get detonation causing serious heat and causing serious damage so yeah lol.
ZT would be cheaper tbh if you alraedy have a decent rolling shell tbh. Buying a cossie then tuning it to a decent sp[ec wont be cheap unless you buy a well specc'd one to begin with.

Grant

 

It wasn't intentional and yes lean is dangerous but is was showing no signs of doing anything nasty.

The beiges and Superchips chip from the original build were sold and we put the blues back until the ECU etc could be added but but it was slow as Hell so we popped a 165 chip in and set the boost to what we believed to be 12psi for the rr day. Car showed no signs of any issue on the drive to the rr day (which admittidly was a sedate run as we hadn't had chance to get the fueling etc checked) and it was only once strapped down we found it was running slightly more than we had thought.

Even Chris said he was very surprised at the output. We built the engine properly without cutting corners.

 

building a zetec seems more hassle than wots its worth because u then need to uprate gearbox ecu etc and a well speced zetec aint cheap neither !!!!

 

Yeah you've got a point mate, I will be planning on a gearbox upgrade to a mtx75 in the future but management wise im still gonna use the ford eec-IV and have it mapped by MSD. You can pick up a second hand built bottom end with steel internals for under a grand and the standard head is good for over 300bhp with uprated valve springs.
I'd personally rather have an understated car with plenty under the bonnet than a cossie or whatever so you can surprise a lot of people when you boot it. Cant beat it lol.

Grant

 

ha i wish i could find a forged bottom end for under a grand and u do dont wot ur buying and u using zetec head or cvh id love to get mine to a fully blown zetec with around 300bhp mark id be more than happy . but tbh cant see it somehow

 

i got my forged bottom end for under a grand, 2.1 je pistons eagle rods built by devil developments, done 4k since build with receipt. im using standard 2.0 head with uprated valve springs, 2.0 inlet cam and 130 bhp spec ex cam.
im gonna use cvh efi inlet, erst exhaust mani with re-built 2wd cossie t3 with 360 bearing.
hoping to have it set up at around a bar to 21 psi. shoud see 200bhp easy.

grant

 

i should hope so seein as tho mine is touching that how the hell u manage to find a engine for so cheap with so little mileage? wud one drop straight into mine or is it gonna be a pain in the arse like engine management etc do cvh gearboxes bolt straight on etc

 

just need to mod the engine mount slightly orbuy one already done.cvh box bolts up but will need upgrading if running good power.
I just kept looking for engines on ebay and on here etc then one came up at the right price. keep looking and ul find one.

grant

 

someone tell me if they have a zetec going haha

 

@ grant

is it the bottom end from this motor?

http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_u...&v=rjfln5-FjBE

http://devil-developments.co.uk/Mattsfiesta.aspx

 

yeah mate thats the one!

Grant

 

Beasty! I want that gearbox

 

Don't want to hijack this thread however although not a Zetec, search Ebay using my Passionford username for a 1.9 CVH producing just under 300 BHP. It's all still in my car however if the reserve isn't met I may break the car up. I would post the link but as I'm not on here much not sure about the advertising rules etc.

 

ive seen that video before thats fucking nuts is that wot the mtx75 box sounds like thats awesome that fiesta sounds like its putting out serious power anyone no the full specs

 

Apparently it's a bc box according to him with the quaife gearset,think it was 310bhp then went up to 410bhp. Would of though the bc would have spat it's dummy out as quaife only rate the gearset to 175bhp

 

If your only at 190bhp then you've got a least another 50-60bhp before you are on the limit of the stock bottom end, this is of course assuming you have ARP rod bolts?
Wack a Stage 3 T3 on there with some ARP's and a remap (or new MSD chip) you should see around 250bhp on a healthy engine
Just dont sit at 6k+ rpm all the time or you may find a rod come through the block lol

EDIT: Dont forget some bigger injectors too!

 

arp bolts are only needed at 300 everyone thinks that standard bolts are crap wrong they can tollerate more than wot people think waste of money if u aint got serious power

 

id love a go in a fiesta with that sort of power. probably persuade me to get on with it lol

 

Are you talking about my XR2 Supercharged Turbo as advertised on Ebay? If so, what do you realistically think it's worth? It's probably one of those 'As much as someone wants to pay for it' but I'd be interested to know anyway.

It's had literally thousands thrown at it over the years and has got a lot of desirables to make the whole application work.