Right lets see if the collective genuis of PF can get my 3 Door started.
In May I blew the engine up at Brunters got it AA towed home drove it off the back of the recovery truck on 3 cylinders into the garage.

Had the engine rebuilt and new Ryan loom made up (the only things that are new to the car)

Put the whole lot back together now it won't start.
No Spark and sometimes the injectors don't fire either (noid tested)
When you turn the key the coil fires all plugs once then nothing.

These are the parts I have changed:
Coil Amps (Both)
Coil (tried 2 different ones)
WRC Cam Sensor (3 different ones)
2 Phase Sensors (tired putting the old dizzy back in and then another one to make sure)
HT Leads
Crank Sensor
Map Sensor (just cuz I had a spare one)
Loom
ECU

Also put my old loom back on to check Ryans but it still wont start i've cleaned up all the earthing points and even added extra earths direct to the battery.

And to really make it wierd it did start for about 30 seconds when we think the dizzy was timed up incorrectly haven't been about to reproduce that thou

Rich

 

Coolant temp sensor on back of head?????

 

you got it running yet mate ,

 

Is fuel getting in there? are the plugs shot??

When mine had a firing issue i checked every sensor, timing, fuel in, 3 set's of plugs, coil pack and it turned out to be the diaphragm in the FPR was shagged and fuel was flooding the engine - new rail, clean out and a set of fresh plugs and it started.

Some points people were advising me were - are any of the wires from the loom touching the body where it goes through the bulkhead.

 

All brand new sensors, engine will run even if the CTS in disconnected.
Rich

 

Clearly not!
Rich

 

The FPR is a brand new Aeromotive one fitted about 200 miles before I blew it up.

I rewrapped the the whole car loom before the engine went back in so i'm pretty sure nothing is rubbing plus the engine loom is brand new.

It's seriouly doing my head in now.

Rich

 

My mates brand new aeromotive FPR was faulty when he had it rolling roaded recently... thought it worth mentioning.

 

had the ecu tested?

 

Still wouldn't cause the no spark issue.
Rich

 

Tried my ECU in Ian's 3 Door aka COLLEYST200 and it ran his car fine.
Rich

 

sounds like it has a immobilizer on have you had that checked?

 

Yup it's got a Clifford on it but it turns off ok.
Rich

 

When i had mine apart i managed to put the phase sensor connector on the wrong way round and it wouldnt start

Only stopped the injectors working tho??

The only time i've lost spark on mine it was the ignition amp

 

Ye no fuel or sparking in the wrong order would point to a dodgy phase sensor but i've change it twice on the wrc cam trigger sensor and twice on the dizzy phase sensor.
Rich

 

i had the exact same thing in my 3dr, tried everything you have...turned out to be the ecu, which was strange as it was not even touched when i rebuilt the engine.. the ecu would run other cars, but not the one it came out of, told a few people this and nobody had an explanation.bought a L6 and it fired up first flick of the key..worth a try with someone elses ecu...
james

 

try changing your leads round on your coil pack.

 

I'll see if I can find another L8 with coilpack conversion.
Rich

 

Yep tried that too, still nothing.
Rich

 

do you need a hand i can pop around have a look if you want

 

have you swapped 1 and 3 with 2 and 4. some seem to spark opposite to others.

 

Ye and tried another coil with the numbers printed on it too.
Rich

 

Hopefully taking it down Reyand early next week now.
Rich

 

was just about to say mate, just take it to a specialist, not dissing any body on here but you'll ask a question get 20 different answers and confuse yourself, give it to a speciailist and job done then

hope you get it sorted mate

 

Have you inverted the wires on the WRC cam trigger?

I seem to recall they need swapping round...

 

Probably the best thing to do it's driving me nuts now.
Rich

 

On the new loom Ryan surplies he inverts the wires on the loom, but also surplies a fly lead for if your still running a dizzy with the wires the normal way round I did try it with the fly lead too just incase but still nothing.
Rich

 

Are you using a 2wd loom and a l8 ecu, when my brother done this on his escort he had to swap the wires round on the crank sensor to get it to start, worth a try

 

The loom was custom made, but I put my old loom back on which worked before I blew it up and still nothing
Rich

 

sounds like you need one person to look at it and stick to it mate .wot crank sensor are you using ? is it sitting closer anough to pickup and i have had problem with swopping wires around before now worth a try .i think your gona end up kicking your sef mate .if its some think really silly

 

It's down at Reyland as we speak so hopefully Martin will hand be back a fully functioning 3 Door
Rich

 

I hope Martin sorts it out for you

Steve

 

have you got it back from reyland yet ?

 

Mine was like that it was the relays under the dash

 

And what was causing all the problems?
It was the Crank Pulley (after market alloy one)
Don't ask me why it worked on my old engine and not on this one all I care is that it's working now.
Thanks to Martin @ Reyland (for all your diagnostic needs)
Rich

 

what a strange fault, did reyland say why it was at fault ?

 

crank sensor faulty/worn ?

 

Might be that the leading edges on the 4 picks aren't that great, put a standard crank pulley on and it ran fine.
Rich

 

Crazy but at least it's working