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Old Mar 20, 2010 | 04:01 PM
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after some expert help please,

i bought a set of bilstein tarmac spec 909 front coilovers,

i fit them and the arch is about 2 inches above the wheel, even with the spring set to its lowest setting

to remove them i have to remove the hub as the shock has so much compression i cant just lever it down like normal?

i have a shorter set of springs with the shocks but i'm not sure if that would make any difference or not?

any help would be greatly appreciated


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Old Mar 20, 2010 | 04:04 PM
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Sorry Ron im no help, but I spy your Uggs in the background!!
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Old Mar 20, 2010 | 04:06 PM
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Sorry Ron im no help, but I spy your Uggs in the background!!

their not mine,
they are pics from the original sale thread,

you ready for next week? get your camping gear ready
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Im ready mate, but deffo not camping.
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Old Mar 20, 2010 | 04:09 PM
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Shorter springs mate, chances are you won't need them extra springs too
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Old Mar 20, 2010 | 04:09 PM
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Ron,

they do look long, shorter springs will reduce the ride height..

Is it the stanard ARB that prevents the hub drooping to a position where you can remove the strut...

They look like a Grp 'A' casing machined to take a Grp'N' hub,

What rating are they? they look very hard....
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if you take the springs off, remove the nut from the under side and unscrew the mono tube then measure it, i'll tell you what you have, or, have a look under the spring cap at the top for a 909 number on the insert and i'll try from that, looks to me like you have gravel inserts and tall top caps.

what length springs have you on at the moment?
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Old Mar 20, 2010 | 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by ian sibbert
Ron,

they do look long, shorter springs will reduce the ride height..

Is it the stanard ARB that prevents the hub drooping to a position where you can remove the strut...

They look like a Grp 'A' casing machined to take a Grp'N' hub,

What rating are they? they look very hard....
pretty much mate yes, as much as i lever the hub down the strut keeps going with it, if that makes sense? the spring rate do you mean? 300ibs, and the shorter set are 500ibs,

question is will i be able to use them without spending to much as i'm on a budget


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if you take the springs off, remove the nut from the under side and unscrew the mono tube then measure it, i'll tell you what you have, or, have a look under the spring cap at the top for a 909 number on the insert and i'll try from that, looks to me like you have gravel inserts and tall top caps.

what length springs have you on at the moment?

i will strip them down tommorow and get the numbers off thank you, i put it together with the red springs on which i think are 12 inch? the 500ibs springs are 8inch but didnt want to use them as thought they would be too hard?

will these be any good for me for track or have i been buggered?
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500lb is very hard, and I always look to use the longest spring I can to ensure the most suspension travel i need, if you dont need a lot (but dont forget the compression will be alot more than you can do by hand at 100mph ! )

on the orad you will need chewing gum with the 500's to stop your teeth chattering, especially if them dampers are valved for pure tar !
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Originally Posted by markk
500lb is very hard, and I always look to use the longest spring I can to ensure the most suspension travel i need, if you dont need a lot (but dont forget the compression will be alot more than you can do by hand at 100mph ! )

on the orad you will need chewing gum with the 500's to stop your teeth chattering, especially if them dampers are valved for pure tar !

thats what i was thinking, 500 is very hard isnt it,

i have entered time attack and i dont really use the car on the road very often, so not worried on the ride quality,

i will get the numbers tommorow and post them up and hopefully you can shed some light
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500lbs is Not hard at all for a track car ,might be for you rally wussies tho .



I have Re-furbed pair of 500/200 Tarmac inserts here ,i can bring them along on tuesday if you like .
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Originally Posted by Touring Car Spares
500lbs is Not hard at all for a track car ,might be for you rally wussies tho .



I have Re-furbed pair of 500/200 Tarmac inserts here ,i can bring them along on tuesday if you like .

i was going to bring them with me tuesday tony and ask what you thought, was going to see how busy you was first though

would be great if you could shed some light mate,

do you want me to strip them or leave them complete?

cheers
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Pull one out and we can see what its doing ,and the rod length etc...
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Originally Posted by Touring Car Spares
Pull one out and we can see what its doing ,and the rod length etc...

ok thanks mate,

tea's are on me
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i run 300lbs on my pug, 300lbs on your 3dr will be soft
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Originally Posted by Touring Car Spares
500lbs is Not hard at all for a track car ,might be for you rally wussies tho .



I have Re-furbed pair of 500/200 Tarmac inserts here ,i can bring them along on tuesday if you like .

ooop norf we are in the real world - we know whats hard and whats not

im sure Mr T will sort you - FOOLS ! lol
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I would also suggest having a look at tony's rear units as they look very trick
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