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Old Feb 4, 2010 | 09:02 AM
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Cool 1958 rag top beetle. Scooby WRX power

Oh dear another resto project, still its only 3. I once had 7 hehe.
Its eiher late 57 or 58, difficult to tell as its not on the original chassis, but using certain details of the car to id it id be happy to say its 58. Chassis is 67 with IRS rear end. The body has been chopped about as it had a scooby engine in it.
So the cars a bit of a bitza if not a little confused about its personality really
Its a bit of a first for me as im normally a believer in stock or slightly modified bolt ons. Ive always dreamt of doing sometihng a bit different but never had the heart or found the right car to cut about. Luckily this one is already half way there so I dont feel bad at all!
I have big plans for this one.


Chassis is all powdercoated and Has had IRS grafted in

Firewall boxed and big hole where scooby lump sat

Front apron cut and boxed for the radiatior

Small windows, semaphores and the door catch design date it at 58


Check out the original Goldie 3 fold sunroof, aparantly these are rare, ive never paid much attention, but its a cool feature.


I havnt touched the 67 for about 5 months now. not like me, but the red 69 is nearly done. MOT next week hopefully, then I can caryy on with the 67. Hope to start on the 58rag in the summer.








Ive now changed the skoda alloys for GT's (rostyle) Bannded on the rear. pics to follow.
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Old Feb 4, 2010 | 09:05 AM
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very nice projects you have there
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Old Feb 4, 2010 | 12:37 PM
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always a pleasure reading your resto threads lee. this one sounds really interesting
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Old Feb 4, 2010 | 01:00 PM
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Great projects always liked old skool beetles
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Old Feb 4, 2010 | 05:02 PM
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Good looking project there ,my mate put an alfa lump in a beetle back in the 80,s did surprise a few people
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Old Feb 4, 2010 | 06:28 PM
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Awesome stuff Lee
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Old Feb 4, 2010 | 06:37 PM
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Cracking work as always Lee.
Are you going to put a scooby motor back in or are you going for a change?
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Old Feb 4, 2010 | 07:11 PM
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Dont go scooby power build yourself a lairy 2110cc on twin 48's a 58 is just crying out for induction roar!!!! I used to have many a bug and you just cant beat that sound
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Old Feb 4, 2010 | 07:18 PM
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lee i love your resto threads. Good look with it. I will be keeping a eye on it.
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Old Feb 4, 2010 | 08:39 PM
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Looks an interesting one
I'm still looking out for my Dads old 1960 Ragtop if you ever hear of it for sale, was reg 7081 KB but that plates on a modern 4x4 now iirc. Was black with Burgundy sides last I saw of it, did the show circuit in the mid 90's
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Old Feb 5, 2010 | 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by longdog
Cracking work as always Lee.
Are you going to put a scooby motor back in or are you going for a change?
No plans yet as such, The red 69 is now up for sale, and i gota finish the 67 also.

Only when they are done will i start on the scooby bug.

Ps: its been a year since I bought the 16i, how time flies
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Old Feb 11, 2010 | 10:58 AM
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Another great project
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Old Feb 11, 2010 | 11:32 AM
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Wicked, l like reading your project threads Lee, the house looks very nice as well,

A scooby lump would be funny and l would have thought make for a dam fast bug, what about a Porsche engine in one?

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Old Feb 12, 2010 | 08:27 AM
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Wicked, l like reading your project threads Lee, the house looks very nice as well,

A scooby lump would be funny and l would have thought make for a dam fast bug, what about a Porsche engine in one?

Mike
No, a porsche lump is nice, but its a tight fit with the 6 cylinders and very expensive when looking at BHP per Ł

Scooby lump is much easier to fit, cheaper and quicker (well quicker bhp per Ł)

Anyway, been the idiot I am im not going for either option, im going for a VR6 . As far as im aware its never been done, using IRS. Only seen it done grafting in the fornt subframe of a golf which is IMHO shite and cheating !!!!!

Need to sell this first tho, to fund it


https://passionford.com/forum/cars-f...-2995-ono.html nudge nudge hint hint


Take a look at this scooby bug
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ES2l6nWj_68
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCtzV...eature=channel

and the full build of the car
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSR-r...eature=related
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Old Feb 12, 2010 | 09:18 AM
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My mates got a T5 engine in the back of his Bug, truely nuts bloke. He's just putting a 5.7litre V8 in the back of a Nova. Also got a 500hp 4 x 4 caddy.
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this is going to be another quality thread!!
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Old Jul 6, 2010 | 09:00 PM
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Shamlessly stolen from one of my vdub forums...

But hopefully shows that a scooby engine fits striaght it.

So next time you see a bug at the lights and dont hear the high pitch exhaust it could be a 2.5wrx in the back.

This is a 1958 small window car with a genuine golde sunroof.
The car is in the latter stages of restoration, requiring mainly bolt on goodies, suspension essentials and usual tinkering.


The body and chassis have been fully restored, so this is an ideal project for a beginner or indeed someone who doesnt want de ja vu from the hand full of previous beetle surgeries they may have performed on past cars.
I purchased the car from TSR dragracing about a year ago, the restoration work was all done buy/for them as this was a demo car for their subaru conversions. So as you can immagine the work is to a high standard. (Ive been informed the previous owners before that were Cambridge Football Club)
The 3 pics below are of the car when TSR had it



The rear has been very neatly boxed out to accept the scooby engine and also the front apron is fully set up for a radiator. Its also fitted with custom radiator pipes running the length of the chassis.
The car is running on a 67 chassis with Full IRS rear end, and a neat 1600GT gearbox (ideal for the scooby lump)
The engine is an EJ18 from a subaru Impreza, and has done approximatly 70k. It comes complete with its matching loom, fuse boxes and ECU as well as manifold. There is also an inline fuel pump and regulator for the fuel injection. Not only this but its been treated to a brand new timing belt and tensioner. Its currently sitting in the rear of the car, basically to give an idea of how neat a conversion it is, and also for ease of moving. It does still require an adapter to fit it properly. Or if you really wanted to go to town, the full IRS means you could run a 6 rib bus box or a porsche box in with ease mated to a bell housing.
The chassis is currently LHD, but due to there being nothing connected up, its a very simple procedure on a beetle to have it RHD. As mentioned its IRS and as it previously had a running engine, the fuel injection return pipe is already installed in the tunnel. Its also got a new dual circult mastercylinder fitted with all new brake lines and braided hoses through out.
The chassis was imported from better climates, so at present has no V5. Im currently in the process with DVLA of sorting this out and have the paperwork here for this. Ive decided to not proceed any further as its really depends on what the new owner has planned for the car and also makes sence for their name to be on the logbook from the start. Its debatable wether it will be assigned an F registration or an age related plate based on the body, but this will be sorted out during the completion of the log book approval. Its not as daunting as it sounds and is the same procedre as importing any bug or bus from sunny california.
The front beam is a BRAND NEW item from Big Boys Toys, its been around for a few years now, its only purpose so far haveing being used to move various projects around. So although its no longer shiny and chip free, its a rock solid new beam that has never seen the road before. Its currently running on some old trailing arms and hubs I had spare, these will require a referb, or most likley you will (as I had planned) fit new arms and dropped spindles with disk brakes.
The car is rolling on a pair of wellers, but the car can be supplied on a standard set of steels also.
The body is fitted with new window rubbers, a brand new set of front wings (good quality thick metal) and a new pair of DS Molding fiberglass wings at the rear. These have been used as they are a perfect fit and are much stronger than their metal counterparts, the reason for this is the rear apron can then be unbolted for easy and instant access to the engine. Also fitted are a new set of gloss black running boards.
The golde sun roof is in amazing condition, and operates like new. the current vinal is ripped but there is a new black one to go on so fear not.
There are many spares with the car, such as;
Sloping lights
New black rag top top vinal !!!!!
Interior convertable oval sunvisor/rear view mirror!
INDY scat gear shifter
Good condition rear bench and high back front seats
Small window correct wipers and motor
New battery
Spare rear screen
Door handles, catches etc.
Switches etc
Various rubbers and fittings.
To simplify a long story, when the car had its respray, the doors, bonnet and boot lid were stolen/taken from the car.
The first thing I did after buying the car was to source a set of small window doors, correct w deck lid and long bonnet, all of which are getting hard to find and expensive!
They come complete with the handles/locks, glass and mechs etc. All will obviously require some work to get to the standard of the rest of the body, and will need painting.
Ive most likley missed something, but hopefully you have a good idea of what is here and the potential of the project.
Time for some pics!
Here you can see the difference between the small and larger windowes on my red 68 and white 67.


IRS

Semaphore model

The new beam


The golde sunroof



random interior



neat firewall extention

the engine

the front cooling and stainless steel ducting


Small window curves...ummmm

Long bonnet, correct rear lid complete with popes nose, catch and t handle. Also note the new spare front apron

doors

Various shots with or with out bits fitted




So there it is.
Its such a difficult and unique car to put a price on.
Its a small window semaphore car with a Genuine Factory fitted Golde 2 fold sunroof. Which as im sure you know is rare as hens teeth.
Its running on a fully IRS set up chassis, with perfect 1600GT gearbox, and all the plumbing for the scooby engnie, with a brand new rock solid beam
Engine is ready to plug in and play, complete with all its brains and parts needed.
The body and chassis are rock solid and fully restored, all the hard work is done, no need to pull out that dirty old mig welder.
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They use the bettles gearbox with the scooby engine lol

Good luck with this mate, vr6 lumps always sound fruity what about a YB? has that been done?

Rob,
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Looks good lee
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Old Jul 7, 2010 | 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by mike77cos
Looks good lee
Yeh if you like beetles.

Originally Posted by Rob_DOHC
They use the bettles gearbox with the scooby engine lol

Good luck with this mate, vr6 lumps always sound fruity what about a YB? has that been done?

Rob,
The 1600GT box is more than strong enough for the engine, not only that but the ratios are perfect.

People who are pushing big power tend to use "6 rib" vw bus boxes which are megga strong, or if really going to town the Porsche 911 gearbox it a direct fitment on the IRS rear end.

The VR6 engine I had for this, went in to my mk3 VR6. As the original engine went bang!

YB would not really be a good choice. The scooby being a boxer engine lends itself well to a beelte.

People do out in V8's, but this is megga bucks and all spaceframe chassis

Heres a V8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKqAwDIlfOo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoJArWhER9A&feature=related

And heres a 2.5 WRX
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ES2l6nWj_68&feature=PlayList&p=1368E4D07D0 8D231&playnext_from=PL&playnext=1&index=36

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSR-roNVhX0&feature=related
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