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Old Nov 14, 2009 | 02:50 PM
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Hello.

My landlord, the twat that he is, tells me the dampness in the shithole flat I'm renting off him, is caused purely by the condensation from our breathing.

I have been arguing with him since March.

Anyways, would the builders and home-improvment experts say that this is dampness??










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Old Nov 14, 2009 | 02:57 PM
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Holy fuk man that much damp really isnt good for you.
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Old Nov 14, 2009 | 02:58 PM
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tell your landlord to get to fuck. stop paying your rent.

You can't live like that.
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Old Nov 14, 2009 | 03:05 PM
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fucking agree,we founnd damp like yours but only a quarter of it and we stopped paying rent,he had builers round a week later.
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Old Nov 14, 2009 | 03:05 PM
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you can't live like that, get out of there and rent some where else!
and you must do a lot of breathing lol to be able 2 create that much damp..
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Old Nov 14, 2009 | 03:06 PM
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why are you living there give someone else your money and get a better place to live.looks to me like it needs an air brick or 10
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Old Nov 14, 2009 | 03:17 PM
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Well, I spoke to the legal department at the council, and with the family lawyer. Apparently the standards that rented flats have to be is very low, I 'might' breach my tenancy agreement and get utterly fucked

My wife chose this shitehole while I was at sea, and signed a very binding 12 month lease So, the plan is to move in March, or maybe February and just pay 2 lots of rent for a month. It'd be worth it to be able to dry our clothes

It's a private let, so as far as support from anywhere goes, there's NONE
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Old Nov 14, 2009 | 03:19 PM
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Can I just ask, is there any heating in that room at all? Do you open the windows regularly?
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Old Nov 14, 2009 | 03:22 PM
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Hello, I am similar to you, I also breath as do my family but we do not have the same problem.

Have you tried breathing less or perhaps only breathing through an open window or whilst outside?

You could also see wether breathing apparatus will assist in the matter along with some complex extraction system.

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Old Nov 14, 2009 | 03:27 PM
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Can I just ask, is there any heating in that room at all? Do you open the windows regularly?

Yes, it's just not very effective As for opening the windows, not really. It is November, and outside it's bloody cold

But I see where you're going. But surely, I shouldn't have to open the windows and whack the heating on full blast for a dry bedroom.... My electric bill is already 200 quid a month

Rick, I could always borrow 2 EDBA sets from the Fire and Repair party on my ship, the only downside is my daughter also requires to breathe. And We don't have a mini BA set. Maybe there's money to be made in the design of childrens BA sets!

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Old Nov 14, 2009 | 03:32 PM
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I'm not a builder but mate that is bad!...that much damp can be very bad for your health

I wouldnt even give him the chance to fix it as it looks to me like the place is fucked and any repair is going to take a while!
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It could well be condensation, if there isn't enough ventilation in there then the walls will go that colour.... just from looking at the photos it looks like you have condensation at the bottoms of your windows too on the inside.... opening the windows is the only way really, unless you go get a dehumidifier....
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Originally Posted by XRdodgybird
It could well be condensation, if there isn't enough ventilation in there then the walls will go that colour.... just from looking at the photos it looks like you have condensation at the bottoms of your windows too on the inside.... opening the windows is the only way really, unless you go get a dehumidifier....
dehumidifier's are nosiey though?
plus, you want to be using one of them in the garage to keep the car in top condtion, not in your bedroom!
personally i would move out..
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Old Nov 14, 2009 | 03:44 PM
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Moving out might not be an option though until the lease runs out........ they don't have to have it on on a night and they aren't that noisy anyway.....
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Old Nov 14, 2009 | 03:55 PM
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is it ground floor? are they cavity walls or solid? is there a permanent air vent in the room? need more info 2 kno how da damp is gettin in. also if any fungi growth take sample get it tested if hazardous that would be ok 2 stop tenancy agreement
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Old Nov 14, 2009 | 04:20 PM
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Thats terrible, if thats from your breathing i suggest you clean your teeth

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Old Nov 14, 2009 | 04:28 PM
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You need it sorted or get out of there before that little'un of yours gets ill from it.
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Old Nov 14, 2009 | 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Lee Reynolds
You need it sorted or get out of there before that little'un of yours gets ill from it.


On a serious note you should get a damproof firm around or a specialist company to give you something on paper that you defo have a problem, then throw it at the fucking landlord !
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Old Nov 14, 2009 | 04:31 PM
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Thats shocking Rab - hope you get it sorted out. I'm sure thats no good for the wee one
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Old Nov 14, 2009 | 04:39 PM
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My breeze block single skin sheds dryer than that! No way would I have anyone living it that.
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Old Nov 14, 2009 | 04:42 PM
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be careful because a lot of dampness can be really bad for your health, my sister had a similar problem and was really ill because she was breathing the mouldy damp air all the time.
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Old Nov 14, 2009 | 04:44 PM
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that is utterly ridiculous and if you continue to let the landlord bully you, more fool you. Especially for your little one, the spores from the mould that forms is very bad for you.
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Old Nov 14, 2009 | 05:04 PM
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that is very bad for your health rab you gotta stop paying rent till its fixed our electric bill is Ł45 a month for a 3 bed house are you on a meter if so get it checked cos its deffo wrong fella
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Old Nov 14, 2009 | 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by bad boy rs


On a serious note you should get a damproof firm around or a specialist company to give you something on paper that you defo have a problem, then throw it at the fucking landlord !
Good idea mate, I'll do that!

Originally Posted by Rodreguez
is it ground floor? are they cavity walls or solid? is there a permanent air vent in the room? need more info 2 kno how da damp is gettin in. also if any fungi growth take sample get it tested if hazardous that would be ok 2 stop tenancy agreement
Ground floor, solid walls and the vents are above the windows. Who'd I get to sample to the fungus?


Unfortunately, the heating doesn't work either..... Storage heaters, that don't store I have 2 de-humidifiers, but I leave one in my daughters room during the day, and the other is in the living room as thats where she plays with her toys and watches In The Night Garden and so on. Thats me and the missus' room.... The other room shown is the spare room.

PS, when I'm using the de-humidifiers, they cost me Ł4.20...... A day

It's a ground floor 'masionette' flat.... The whole shitehole building is in a dip in the ground, and outside our window is a bog I am stuck in the lease until March, and then I'm out. Gone. Away, even if it means living with my mother in law.

Worst bit is the sheer cost of the electric. It has a split meter system, that only Scottish Hydro Electric can supply, so we can't change provider It's well expensive, and as the storage heaters don't store, I use convector heaters in the wee one's room, the living room and our bedroom. When you combine all of this, it gives an electric bill of Ł250-Ł280 per month Also, when it rains, I lose the TV picture due to the water running in the walls And it's so damp, I haven't been able to get BBC1, BBC2 and a bunch of digital channels since September


Oh, and my rent is Ł475 a month, and the council have valued it at Ł100k for some insane reason and even the not wet and rotten flats in the same place are only worth 75k, meaning council tax is Ł140 a month.....

Combine that lot and I could rent a fucking penthouse No wonder I'm so skint
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Old Nov 14, 2009 | 07:20 PM
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If you know that the other flats are valued at less and aren't any bigger, you can and should appeal against your rating. I think the bandings can be checked at the council office free of charge.

We had Scottish Hydro Total Control for our storage heaters until we binned them this year. They are the only people with the radio control thing but, if your storage heaters aren't storing you might be cheaper on Economy 10 or similar for your portable heaters etc.

Argyll is quite a small community and I'm sure your landlord would hate to have a reputation as a slum landlord if the local paper just happened to hear about the wean living in damp conditions while her daddy is away supporting our troops (nothing wrong with exaggeration in the press!)
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Old Nov 14, 2009 | 07:45 PM
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call mike holmes round and he'll kick 7 shades of proverbial out of the landlord

that is just asking for respitary problems living there, the sooner you get the fuck out he better

that is absolutly outstandingly socking
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March 1st and we're out
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Old Nov 14, 2009 | 09:48 PM
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that's still 4 months and change to long fella

you really should be getting helth and safety type boffins round to find out if it's legal to habitat accomodation in that state of dempness
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Old Nov 14, 2009 | 10:29 PM
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looks like a combination of damp,poor ventilation,and no heating, i rent a couple of flats out in the city centre and no way would i expect any one to live in that, there is repairing standard that all rented property has to adhere to and landlords must olso be registerd with the local council buy law,, worth getting this one checked out..
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i shit you not i would move out of there and into chips garage!

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breathing can cause the black spores to form on the walls,but unless you have really really bad breath it wont peel the paper off the walls.get a couple of oilfilled rads as they give off loads of heat and arent as costly to run.that damp will be bad for your health though.
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Old Nov 14, 2009 | 10:36 PM
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I think the main bit of advice this thread will pass onto prospective tenants is.... DON'T LET A WOMAN PICK THE FLAT.......



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it looks liek the damp is also getting in the electricls as ther eis a plug sockt in one of the pic in the wall

you really do need to do soemthing about it as it's deffo a big risk, he more i look at the pics, the more i think you need to get out and stop over at a mates/parents house for the uration until you get this sorted
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Rab you have rights even in jock land

You are an assured tenant from what you have said, and your rights include him providing accommodation in a fit state and making "timely repairs".

Im pretty sure he would be in breach of contract thus making the tenancy agreement void unless he sorts the problems.

Youve got a young kid so fuck him on environmental health if needs be.

Oh and if he threatens your deposit he is also breaking the law!!!

its dead easy to win against dodgy landlords in court these days!!!
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Is totally the landlords liability, as damp spores like that can be health problem particularly to young 'uns & anyone with asthma or other breathing problems.

If the landlord refuses to do anything then as a temp' fix you could coat the damp areas with a couple of coats of oil based paint to seal it up.
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ring the health and safety they will send a savayor out theres no way thats down to condensation unless its been like it for years
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Originally Posted by XRdodgybird
It could well be condensation, if there isn't enough ventilation in there then the walls will go that colour.... just from looking at the photos it looks like you have condensation at the bottoms of your windows too on the inside.... opening the windows is the only way really, unless you go get a dehumidifier....
That is not condensation!!!

Its difficult to tell with out any external shots also, but to me looks like rising damp.

What is on the out side wall? where is the ground level? Pics would help.

Id say there is either a break in the DPC, the ground level out side is higher than the dpc or its rising around the dpc either on the out side rendering? Or inside from the floor.


If it was a customer of mine, I would advise that they do not enter the room at all, and Id be keen to get the work done asap for them.

Not only is it extreemly bad for your health (especially as your spending a 1/3 of your life in there) that level of damp can give you some nasty lung diseases but also the building is suffering majorly there.

Id be intrested to see what the celing joists look like also?

Im not clued up on rental rights etc, but from a builders point of view you need to get that sorted asap!!!
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I can't believe the state of the walls and ceiling

Stop paying the rent until its sorted

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I'm going to e-mail him with these pics, asking for him to sort it asap.
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Originally Posted by Rab
I'm going to e-mail him with these pics, asking for him to sort it asap.
You need to do something mate

If not for yourself do it for your little one.

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