i've just fitted a engine into a 3 door shell i bought and can't get it started
also fitted a 2wd saph engine loom, group a fuel pump.

i've got power to the fuel pump and had a plug into number 1 lead and it had a spark.
what things can i check???

 

timing,firing order all good?

 

yeah i believe so. as you look at the dizzy cap when its fitted the bottom right is no1 them top right is no 3, top left is 4 bottom left is 2

thats correct is'nt it??

 

fuel pump earthed correctly?ecu actually plugged in?fuel pump switch in the on position in the boot?

 

i've changed the fuel pump and some the petrol drained from the pipes. do they air lock or will the return get rid of the air??

 

make sur the crank sensor is fully working what ecu you using also check and check again Phase sensor is aligned correctly

 

the pump is working and have pressure because 1 of the clips were'nt tight and so had leak. lol
ecu is plugged in

there is'nt a switch in a 3 door for the pump is there??

 

i know in the saff its the inertia switch in the boot,in the spare wheel well.its a push in switch.

 

i am going to change crank sensor tomorrow as the engine did fall forward when i removed the engine onto the crank sensor
using a lever 6 ecu
everything was out of my saph that was running before i removed it.

 

mine does'nt have 1 and don't think any 3 door's have them. my fuel pump is working any way.

 

I've just had another look and it still won't start.
what i've found out is the fuel lines were the wrong way round ( was getting dark, lol).
i've change the crank sensor with a 4x4 one i had. what's the gap supposed to be for the crank sensor?? it's 0.4mm at the minute
there is plenty of pressure to the fuel reg now
there is a good spark to the plugs but they are dry when i've removed them after i've tried to start it. so i don't think the injectors are working???

what could that be??
i've fitted the engine from a 2wd saph

 

Cranck sensor is 0,6 - 1,1mm
Are the rotor ligned up where it should be?

 

will that stop it from starting??
the rotor is pointing to number 1 at tdc and to the line on the dizzy

 

Yes cause it might get mixed signals cause it´s to close
Is the cabels mounted correct?
1 3 4 2 in that order on the dizzy?

 

How long have the injectors been stood ?

Petrol leaves a gooey residue when it dries out and this is a common causes of injectors sticking...... I always run the injectors through a cleaning cycle on the machine before i store them...

 

yes they are. i think its a fuel problem because the plugs should have been wet if it was a spark problem.

what does the crank sensor control?
what controls the injectors?

 

only been about 7 weeks car was running before i removed everything

 

Also check the phase sensor as well as the crank sensor, are the phase and crank sensors plugged into the correct plugs ?.......it`s an easy mistake to make when reconnecting the loom

 

i will check the plugs mate thanks. phase sensor should be ok as a1 rallysport just set it up

 

i've just had another look. i've got the crank sensor at 1mm now and check the crank sensor and phase sensor plugs in case they are the wrong way round but they are colour coded white and black.
i've took the injectors out the manifold but kept them in the rail, i turned it over and there is'nt much petrol flowing out. just spitting little bit.

any one know someone in the north east that can have a look??

 

i think it's a fuel problem.
there's pressure before the regulator but it's not filling the rail up. i've tried a few different regulators and it still won't fill up.
how do they work???

the petrol feed does go to the bottom of the regulator and no direct to the fuel rail?

 

No mate, the pump feeds the rail directly via the fuel filter and the regulator controls the flow back to the tank out the bottom of it .


Does the pump run ?

 

yeah pump runs but i have the pipe from the pump to the reg and the 1 from the rail to the tank

 

Well thats your problem then... Double check it !!!

The regulator will only allow fuel to flow one way !!

 

as above, the fuel regulator keeps the pressure up in the rail then releases it to the tank.
you must have the fuel from the tank direct to the rail.

 

just swap the pipes round and guess what the car started

thanks guys for you help

 

I had the same on my twin turbo xr4x4 when i replaced the fuel lines. The guy that had a look for me pulled the fuel line off the reg and got covered in fuel!
Is this the return of HAJ?

 

Glad you got it sorted fella

 

good ol pf! nice easy fix! you wont do that again

 

you rite there lol.

i've taken many engine's in and out but when i take a engine out i know where things have been, i bought this shell with out an engine so thats what the confusion was.

 

glad to here you have got it running now we had the say with my 3dr but the way we solved it i pulled number 1 plug out put a small bit of fuel down the hole put the plug in hit the key and it cothed so we swopped the lines round and she came into life

 

you still got the esc justin

 

no sold that a while ago. have you got another cossie after the 3 door?

 

nah mate been buisy buildin a buissines so not had the spare funds to waste lol

 

Brilliant, glad you sorted it.

I dont feel like a useless c*nt anymore

 

i do for putting the pipes the round the wrong way round and tried all sorts to get it to start for a full day.

 

Mate, dont feel bad, we all do silly things. At least you have learned something.
Its what we are here for

(And to take the piss out of A J )

 

You learn by your mistakes.