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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 10:21 AM
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Just got the above engine to go into my Escort RS Turbo Series 2.....i know that the standard gearbox isnt particularly useful for the sort of power this engine will run......just wondered what gearbox is best to use and maybe a rough idea on price for those people who may know of/have this conversion on this car.
Im in no great rush as funds are slow in coming at the moment and i have to fork out most of my cash on Saturday for the engine, but i need to start looking for the right 'box as i cant see the standard one lasting very long..........any suggestions??

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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 10:25 AM
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Hello mate,

Pick up the phone and speak to Bernie at this place : http://www.gearboxman.co.uk/
He will give you all your options and prices.

I had a ZVH runnng 250bhp/300lbft and used a Bernie stg2+ box, costing about Ł1300 iirc
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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 10:34 AM
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Alex blew up 2 bernie stage 2 plus boxes on his old engine that i have now and was running a smaller spec than i am now, i think i have been lucky so far im sure its only a matter of time! Olli blew his bernie box up the weekend on the zetec turbo engine i had built and his only running a bas map at the mo So I would not recommend one tbh lol Don't get me wrong there good gearboxes but not for big power!

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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 10:36 AM
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I thought a few of the high power RSt's use the MTX 75 box out of a mondeo or such like

Seem to remember a few people using them.

How strong is the getrag st170 gearbox??
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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 10:39 AM
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Yep the MTX 75 route seams to be a good option but its not a bolt in job, some of the front chassis leg needs removing.
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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 10:41 AM
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Mondeo box seems like the best option to me, XRStu did that on his fiesta and it wasnt too big a deal to fit IIRC
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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 10:42 AM
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What power is the enigne running?
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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 10:53 AM
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I'm on a Bernie stage 1 box with Ford LSD as opposed to the Quaiffe item, Have been putting 260bhp through it for ages and haven't broken it. Aparently I drive like an animal which I feel is a bit harsh
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Originally Posted by Series1Guy
How strong is the getrag st170 gearbox??
It's the strongest out of the lot, but its close ratios arent super turbo-friendly.
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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by pa_sjo
It's the strongest out of the lot, but its close ratios arent super turbo-friendly.

Agreed its known to be strong, ratios are good for racing
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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 12:20 PM
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To be honest im not too sure what power the engine is running....as the current owner (rst in progress) is running it on a different turbo to what it will be running on in my car, and probably different management to what its running...id hope around 250. Mondeo gearbox anygood then? Iv been told the ST170 box is and up and coming conversion...gear ratios not good then? Need to get this right because i dont want to spend a grand on a box and then have it go the first time i drive it............
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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 12:24 PM
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For that power i would go for a Berni stg 2 box.

for 300+ then a mtx is the only choice the st170 box is the strongest but its costly.

Budget 2k to fit the st170 box
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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 01:26 PM
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My Berni Stg 2 box is now only two speed.

Going to get a MTX75 made up. but then you need to think about what clutch to use on the mtx75 as its not the same flywheel as the ib5.
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