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Old Oct 23, 2004 | 05:51 AM
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cant get hold of cheap pistons so just wondering what the options are heard about some american forged ones but they require different rods? can anyone help? cheers kris
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Old Oct 23, 2004 | 08:02 AM
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Have you tried contacting Phil M??

Im sure he can still get sets of pistons for the zetec turbo at a decent price??
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Old Oct 23, 2004 | 08:33 AM
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Options really are:

Standard (Not an option!)
Vauxhall Calbira Turbo (Good for 300bhp)
RS200 Pistons (To acheive a low enough CR you have to take a lot of meat off so the crown gets very thin, not a good idea)
Acrillite (No experience of these)
Then proper places like JE, Arrias is it?

Calibra Turbo are the best VFM PhilM does a set for around Ł150 on here or new they are about Ł400 I think.
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Old Oct 23, 2004 | 09:08 AM
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Foook all that Calibra stuff!!!

Do it propa
Under Ł600 for these two items which are exactly the same as the 909 Motorsport part!



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Ł600 for a set of steel rods AND pistons? I doubt it...

Why bother with real top end stuff if your power target isn't anywhere near? I mean Ł150 from phil, you can build a decent engine thats going to be more than powerful enough for most people.

I totally agree if your going for big power and I would recommend a decent set of rods for decent power but if someone just wants say 250bhp then really no point. Standard rods and a set of pistons from phil, you got a nice engine for not loads of money.
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Old Oct 23, 2004 | 09:50 AM
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Ł600 for a set of steel rods AND pistons? I doubt it...
YOU DOUBT ALOT OF THINGS JOHN!

As i said before if you want to do it without cutting corners or leaving weaks spots in your engine build. These pistons AND Rods will be able to hole your engine together like no other Vauxhall Calibra parts will.
They cost around Ł565 this includes pistons forged x4, rods steel h-section x4 rings & pins!

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P.s i have the exact measurements of these parts here
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Old Oct 23, 2004 | 09:51 AM
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If anyone can do a set of 909 steel h-section rods and forged pistons for Ł600.00, I will eat my own ringpiece! Tomato sauce at the ready!
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Old Oct 23, 2004 | 09:54 AM
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Ian, i didnt say they were 909 parts. I said they are the same as.

Also i CAN supply CGI 909 Pistons & Rods Ł1250

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Just as long as they werent the Paul Hills chocolate specials as were fitted in my car
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Jano_OddKidd, what pistons and rods are they for Ł565 ??
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Old Oct 23, 2004 | 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by rich_frst
Jano_OddKidd, what pistons and rods are they for Ł565 ??
Special ones

Originally Posted by Ian@Racetek
Just as long as they werent the chocolate specials as were fitted in my car


No dude, they are very different to your YB type rods.
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Old Oct 23, 2004 | 10:27 AM
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can these rods and pistons be had for the cvh for the same sorta money?
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Old Oct 23, 2004 | 10:28 AM
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special ones, eh?!

are they new? or second hand?
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Old Oct 23, 2004 | 10:32 AM
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NEW PARTS!

Big wig, Yes for Rods not yet pistons........but soon
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pmsl

if you can get steel rods and proper pistson for that they go for it. Deffo worth it....

Kris - whats your power target from this engine?
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oh jano - any technical details on the pistons?

what bore are they - what CR are they as standard? in zetec/zvh? how much material is there on the crown? etc...

now you admit they aren't 909 one.. what are they then?
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Originally Posted by Jon ERST S2
oh jano - any technical details on the pistons?
John, do you want to buy a set?

Originally Posted by Jon ERST S2
now you admit they aren't 909 one.. what are they then?

Originally Posted by Jano_OddKidd
Under Ł600 for these two items which are exactly the same as the 909 Motorsport part!
Erm.. have i missed summin
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Old Oct 23, 2004 | 11:20 AM
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jano:ill be talking to you when i need these then!cheers.
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No thankyou. I am not currently in need of any pistons.

However, I believe the topic starter Kris is and I have offered him my opinion. He and others reading this topic may well be interested in a set and you giving them some further information may lead to people buying some as anyone can say I have a set of proper pistons and steel rods.

In reference to your comment regarding 909 Pistons/Rods:

Ian, i didnt say they were 909 parts. I said they are the same as.
If they AREN'T 909 parts then they aren't the same. They may be similar but they AREN'T.

Anyway I have no wish to argue with you. I don't own an RS, I'm not building an engine. As I said above. That is a very good price for proper forged pistons and steel rods if they are suitable for use.

You cannot argue though that Ł150 for a set of calirbra turbo pistons and standard rods are not good value for money. I personally bought NEW ones but if your on a budget Ł150 rather than Ł600 is a big saving, especially if your power target does not require steel rods/even better pistons.

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ok, what DOES 909 mean?hear it too often and i still aint got a clue,is it like cossie tax?ie rods 200 pounds or "909" rods exactly the same 600 pounds? what makes 909 so special?
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Old Oct 23, 2004 | 11:42 AM
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They are High Specification Ford Motorsport parts.

909 is the part number

AFAIK. I've never really been that into things though. I'm sure someone else can confirm/advice you.
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Old Oct 23, 2004 | 11:48 AM
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ok,cheers,im not arsed if theyre made by ford,as long as they are good
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The ones Jano says he has aren't 909 but he says they are similar. Be interested to what car they are from/supplier and/or the spec of them to compare.
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Old Oct 23, 2004 | 01:14 PM
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Jano you talk some propper shit mate.

909 Motorsport parts for a fucking Ford Zetec?

Also, you mention those are CGI 909 Pistons, id personally not want my pistons made from Compacted Graphite Iron...but thats just me

However, to all those of you who doubt you can get pukka rods and pistons for ~Ł600 for both, you can im affraid....not going to say where here, do soem research...LOTS of it, as those rods cant be used without those type of pistons etc etc

An engine I am building (2.0 16v Zetc turbo) we recently purchaced a set of Forged Steel H Section Rods, Pins, ARP Rod Bolts, Forged Ally Pistons (8.2:1CR) and a ring set for all under Ł500 brand new

Infact I may share the info so you lot dont line Janos pockets
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or just sell them yourself!
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Phil, PM me about the rods/pins/bolts if possible mate
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Originally Posted by * Rudey *
phil will they take 350bhp?
yep!

ive seen these rods and pistons and they are the bollox! wait till you see the spec of car there going in to!
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i no he may not come across like that all the time on here but if you spoke to him in person ya would realise he's a top bloke and will try help you out the best he can..
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This wiill piss a few people off, fuck um

Forged Ally Pisotns, 8.2:1CR for the Focus Zetec engine. CW Ring pack for $379
http://www.focus-central.com/catalog...d=1&sid=&pid=4


As for rods, fuck off, you can find them yourself Im sure Jano's are different as these certainly arnt Ford Motorsport 909
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(seems everyones been smokin the same hashish
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Old Oct 23, 2004 | 05:21 PM
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so phil u dont rate calibra turbo pistons for 300bhp
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so what is the best steel rod's and piston's ?????????
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Old Oct 23, 2004 | 07:49 PM
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yeah same as above?!
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