options for zetec turbo pistons?
23-10-2004, 05:51 AM
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options for zetec turbo pistons?
cant get hold of cheap pistons so just wondering what the options are heard about some american forged ones but they require different rods? can anyone help? cheers kris
23-10-2004, 08:33 AM
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Options really are:
Standard (Not an option!)
Vauxhall Calbira Turbo (Good for 300bhp)
RS200 Pistons (To acheive a low enough CR you have to take a lot of meat off so the crown gets very thin, not a good idea)
Acrillite (No experience of these)
Then proper places like JE, Arrias is it?
Calibra Turbo are the best VFM PhilM does a set for around Ł150 on here or new they are about Ł400 I think.
Standard (Not an option!)
Vauxhall Calbira Turbo (Good for 300bhp)
RS200 Pistons (To acheive a low enough CR you have to take a lot of meat off so the crown gets very thin, not a good idea)
Acrillite (No experience of these)
Then proper places like JE, Arrias is it?
Calibra Turbo are the best VFM PhilM does a set for around Ł150 on here or new they are about Ł400 I think.
23-10-2004, 09:36 AM
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Ł600 for a set of steel rods AND pistons? I doubt it...
Why bother with real top end stuff if your power target isn't anywhere near? I mean Ł150 from phil, you can build a decent engine thats going to be more than powerful enough for most people.
I totally agree if your going for big power and I would recommend a decent set of rods for decent power but if someone just wants say 250bhp then really no point. Standard rods and a set of pistons from phil, you got a nice engine for not loads of money.
Why bother with real top end stuff if your power target isn't anywhere near? I mean Ł150 from phil, you can build a decent engine thats going to be more than powerful enough for most people.
I totally agree if your going for big power and I would recommend a decent set of rods for decent power but if someone just wants say 250bhp then really no point. Standard rods and a set of pistons from phil, you got a nice engine for not loads of money.
23-10-2004, 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Jon ERST S2
Ł600 for a set of steel rods AND pistons? I doubt it...
As i said before if you want to do it without cutting corners or leaving weaks spots in your engine build. These pistons AND Rods will be able to hole your engine together like no other Vauxhall
Calibra parts will. They cost around Ł565 this includes pistons forged x4, rods steel h-section x4 rings & pins!
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P.s i have the exact measurements of these parts here
http://members.lycos.co.uk/oddkidd/
23-10-2004, 09:51 AM
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If anyone can do a set of 909 steel h-section rods and forged pistons for Ł600.00, I will eat my own ringpiece! Tomato sauce at the ready!
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23-10-2004, 10:17 AM
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Jano_OddKidd, what pistons and rods are they for Ł565 ?? 
Originally Posted by Ian@Racetek
Just as long as they werent the chocolate specials as were fitted in my car
No dude, they are very different to your YB type rods.
23-10-2004, 10:35 AM
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oh jano - any technical details on the pistons?
what bore are they - what CR are they as standard? in zetec/zvh? how much material is there on the crown? etc...
now you admit they aren't 909 one.. what are they then?
what bore are they - what CR are they as standard? in zetec/zvh? how much material is there on the crown? etc...
now you admit they aren't 909 one.. what are they then?
23-10-2004, 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Jon ERST S2
oh jano - any technical details on the pistons?
Originally Posted by Jon ERST S2
now you admit they aren't 909 one.. what are they then?
Originally Posted by Jano_OddKidd
Under Ł600 for these two items which are exactly the same as the 909 Motorsport part! 
23-10-2004, 11:34 AM
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No thankyou. I am not currently in need of any pistons.
However, I believe the topic starter Kris is and I have offered him my opinion. He and others reading this topic may well be interested in a set and you giving them some further information may lead to people buying some as anyone can say I have a set of proper pistons and steel rods.
In reference to your comment regarding 909 Pistons/Rods:
If they AREN'T 909 parts then they aren't the same. They may be similar but they AREN'T.
Anyway I have no wish to argue with you. I don't own an RS, I'm not building an engine. As I said above. That is a very good price for proper forged pistons and steel rods if they are suitable for use.
You cannot argue though that Ł150 for a set of calirbra turbo pistons and standard rods are not good value for money. I personally bought NEW ones but if your on a budget Ł150 rather than Ł600 is a big saving, especially if your power target does not require steel rods/even better pistons.
Kind Regards,
Jon
However, I believe the topic starter Kris is and I have offered him my opinion. He and others reading this topic may well be interested in a set and you giving them some further information may lead to people buying some as anyone can say I have a set of proper pistons and steel rods.
In reference to your comment regarding 909 Pistons/Rods:
Ian, i didnt say they were 909 parts. I said they are the same as.
Anyway I have no wish to argue with you. I don't own an RS, I'm not building an engine. As I said above. That is a very good price for proper forged pistons and steel rods if they are suitable for use.
You cannot argue though that Ł150 for a set of calirbra turbo pistons and standard rods are not good value for money. I personally bought NEW ones but if your on a budget Ł150 rather than Ł600 is a big saving, especially if your power target does not require steel rods/even better pistons.
Kind Regards,
Jon
23-10-2004, 11:38 AM
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ok, what DOES 909 mean?hear it too often and i still aint got a clue,is it like cossie tax?ie rods 200 pounds or "909" rods exactly the same 600 pounds? what makes 909 so special?
23-10-2004, 11:42 AM
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They are High Specification Ford Motorsport parts.
909 is the part number
AFAIK. I've never really been that into things though. I'm sure someone else can confirm/advice you.
909 is the part number
AFAIK. I've never really been that into things though. I'm sure someone else can confirm/advice you.
23-10-2004, 01:14 PM
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Jano you talk some propper shit mate.
909 Motorsport parts for a fucking Ford Zetec?
Also, you mention those are CGI 909 Pistons, id personally not want my pistons made from Compacted Graphite Iron...but thats just me
However, to all those of you who doubt you can get pukka rods and pistons for ~Ł600 for both, you can im affraid....not going to say where here, do soem research...LOTS of it, as those rods cant be used without those type of pistons etc etc
An engine I am building (2.0 16v Zetc turbo) we recently purchaced a set of Forged Steel H Section Rods, Pins, ARP Rod Bolts, Forged Ally Pistons (8.2:1CR) and a ring set for all under Ł500 brand new
Infact I may share the info so you lot dont line Janos pockets
909 Motorsport parts for a fucking Ford Zetec?
Also, you mention those are CGI 909 Pistons, id personally not want my pistons made from Compacted Graphite Iron...but thats just me
However, to all those of you who doubt you can get pukka rods and pistons for ~Ł600 for both, you can im affraid....not going to say where here, do soem research...LOTS of it, as those rods cant be used without those type of pistons etc etc
An engine I am building (2.0 16v Zetc turbo) we recently purchaced a set of Forged Steel H Section Rods, Pins, ARP Rod Bolts, Forged Ally Pistons (8.2:1CR) and a ring set for all under Ł500 brand new
Infact I may share the info so you lot dont line Janos pockets
23-10-2004, 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by * Rudey *
phil will they take 350bhp? ive seen these rods and pistons and they are the bollox! wait till you see the spec of car there going in to!
23-10-2004, 01:56 PM
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i no he may not come across like that all the time on here but if you spoke to him in person ya would realise he's a top bloke and will try help you out the best he can..
23-10-2004, 02:17 PM
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This wiill piss a few people off, fuck um
Forged Ally Pisotns, 8.2:1CR for the Focus Zetec engine. CW Ring pack for $379
http://www.focus-central.com/catalog...d=1&sid=&pid=4
As for rods, fuck off, you can find them yourself Im sure Jano's are different as these certainly arnt Ford Motorsport 909 
Forged Ally Pisotns, 8.2:1CR for the Focus Zetec engine. CW Ring pack for $379
http://www.focus-central.com/catalog...d=1&sid=&pid=4
As for rods, fuck off, you can find them yourself
Im sure Jano's are different as these certainly arnt Ford Motorsport 909
