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Old Jul 4, 2007 | 09:54 AM
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I bought myself a quickshift kit for the 3dr, and ive just been outside fitting it.

took all the centre consul out, got all boots etc off, but to my horror, it looks like you have to drop the gearbox to get to the 2 bolts at the front of the gearbox casing that hold the stick in. Is that right?

If so, fuck it. it can go on ebay as i cant be arsed doing that!

What would be the easiest way to get around it?
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Old Jul 4, 2007 | 09:56 AM
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cut the hole out bigger on the tranny tunnel?

that'll do it
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Old Jul 4, 2007 | 09:57 AM
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yeah u have to as far as im aware, had trouble removing the old shifter from my saph when jim green wanted it, god damn though it would be a 5 minute job.

You just have to loosen the bolts on the gearbox xmember, not remove them.

Just means jacking the car up, bit of a ball ache i know
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Old Jul 4, 2007 | 09:58 AM
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nah, sod that.

am i right though in saying the box needs dropping out?
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Old Jul 4, 2007 | 09:59 AM
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yeah u have to as far as im aware, had trouble removing the old shifter from my saph when jim green wanted it, god damn though it would be a 5 minute job.

You just have to loosen the bolts on the gearbox xmember, not remove them.

Just means jacking the car up, bit of a ball ache i know
and now its raining

do the x member bolts drop the box enough to get the bolts out?
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I bought myself a quickshift kit for the 3dr, and ive just been outside fitting it.

took all the centre consul out, got all boots etc off, but to my horror, it looks like you have to drop the gearbox to get to the 2 bolts at the front of the gearbox casing that hold the stick in. Is that right?

If so, fuck it. it can go on ebay as i cant be arsed doing that!

What would be the easiest way to get around it?
Just sell it to some other idiot who doesnt realise that the T5 gearbox as found in the cosworth is a bit of an agricultural affair, where by you can change gear faster than the synchro's can line up, without a quick shift fitted.

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Old Jul 4, 2007 | 10:01 AM
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I bought myself a quickshift kit for the 3dr, and ive just been outside fitting it.

took all the centre consul out, got all boots etc off, but to my horror, it looks like you have to drop the gearbox to get to the 2 bolts at the front of the gearbox casing that hold the stick in. Is that right?

If so, fuck it. it can go on ebay as i cant be arsed doing that!

What would be the easiest way to get around it?
Just sell it to some other idiot who doesnt realise that the T5 gearbox as found in the cosworth is a bit of an agricultural affair, where by you can change gear faster than the synchro's can line up, without a quick shift fitted.

Thanks for that AMAZING, useful reply.
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Old Jul 4, 2007 | 10:06 AM
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yeah just loossen the bolts, dont completely remove them, i think that allows enough room for the front 2 bolts on the selector to be removed and the selector to come out.
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Old Jul 4, 2007 | 10:09 AM
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I bought myself a quickshift kit for the 3dr, and ive just been outside fitting it.

took all the centre consul out, got all boots etc off, but to my horror, it looks like you have to drop the gearbox to get to the 2 bolts at the front of the gearbox casing that hold the stick in. Is that right?

If so, fuck it. it can go on ebay as i cant be arsed doing that!

What would be the easiest way to get around it?
Just sell it to some other idiot who doesnt realise that the T5 gearbox as found in the cosworth is a bit of an agricultural affair, where by you can change gear faster than the synchro's can line up, without a quick shift fitted.

Thanks for that AMAZING, useful reply.
It was useful - you could reclaim your money back from selling it - how is that not useful?

I gave you a reason as to why it was no good as well
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Old Jul 4, 2007 | 10:16 AM
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because it was a sarcy reply that i didnt ask for. Title of the thread is:

Cosworth B&M Quickshift question...

Not:

Are B&M quickshifts shit or not?

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Old Jul 4, 2007 | 10:28 AM
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dont you need to do something witht he nuts that the centre consol bolts to?

or chop a bit off the front of B&M?

i wanna know as i got one too, but might go for my first option
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Old Jul 4, 2007 | 10:31 AM
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i hope not cos then it DEFINATELY aint going in! lol

Just jacked the car up, and there are 4x13mm nuts that hold the xmember to the bottom of the car. Pretty easy to get too aswell. So im gunna use my jack, and take the weight off the box, then loosen the nuts right off.
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Old Jul 4, 2007 | 10:49 AM
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and then it ABSOLUTELY PISSED DOWN! so i think im gunna leave it today.
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Old Jul 4, 2007 | 11:15 AM
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I was under the impression that it wasn't a good idea to fit a quick shift to the Borg Warner T5 box?
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Old Jul 4, 2007 | 11:17 AM
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thats what a lot of people have said to me. apparantly fucks the box if changed to quickly.
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Old Jul 4, 2007 | 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Oranoco
I was under the impression that it wasn't a good idea to fit a quick shift to the Borg Warner T5 box?
Yup, i posted that ages ago, but more sarcastically LOL (wasnt totally meant to be too sarcy )

i can change gear faster than the synchro's can get ready on a box without a quick shift fitted.
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Old Jul 4, 2007 | 11:22 AM
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think i may just stick it on fleabay. Cant be arsed with all the hassle really. But at least ive found how easy it is to take out the centre console.
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Old Jul 4, 2007 | 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by boXXer
But at least ive found how easy it is to take out the centre console.
Chain saw?
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Old Jul 4, 2007 | 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by boXXer
think i may just stick it on fleabay. Cant be arsed with all the hassle really. But at least ive found how easy it is to take out the centre console.
Is it new and how much do you want for it ?

I wont need it for a while but if the price is right

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Originally Posted by lead_foot
Originally Posted by boXXer
But at least ive found how easy it is to take out the centre console.
Chain saw?
Thats the one
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Old Jul 4, 2007 | 02:06 PM
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think i may just stick it on fleabay. Cant be arsed with all the hassle really. But at least ive found how easy it is to take out the centre console.
Is it new and how much do you want for it ?

I wont need it for a while but if the price is right

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i'll let ya know if i decide to get rid of it.
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the hardest part of that job IS removing the center console! the undercar mechanics part is then pretty straight forward compared to it, but it invloves rolling round on your back in the drive handling an oily gearbox(probably ) which i suppose some people dont like
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btw, ill have second dibbs on the shifter if your selling it
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Old Jul 4, 2007 | 03:20 PM
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EXACTLY! think i was just a bit pissed off this morning as i wanted to get it done, and then it started raining! GRRR!

So, instead, ive fitted my greens,3bar and stg3 ecu to run around on until i get it mapped.
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Old Jul 4, 2007 | 03:31 PM
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jesus!! If fitting a T5 quickshift phases you then I would put down the spanners and step away from the car

1) take the centre tray off, have to unplug the window switches as well, and there are a few x-head screws holding the trim in. The gaitor is held down by a plastic square ring, held on by 4 nuts- Take them off, and lift the gaitor up, and take off the top half of the gearstick, 2x 13mm bolts I seem to remember.

2) Don't even have to jack the car up, just stick a jack under the box tail, and take the wieght of the box. Drop the 4x13mm nuts off the captive bolts.

3) gently lower the box so you have access to the 4 bolts holding the shifter in from the top of the tunnel. Remove, and replace with the B&M, remembering to pack the joint with grease . Bolt on the B&M until it is nipped up, then make sure you can get all the gears. Adjust until its good, then bolt it in firm, and repeat the removal sequence.

Should take you an hour max, is easy peasy
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Old Jul 4, 2007 | 03:43 PM
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im not saying i CANT do it! I

I've just rebuilt my cossie engine by myself FFS!

I was just saying, that when your half way through a job, and it starts pissing down, it really annoys you.

I basically had it all apart in 10 mins, and when i saw where the 2 bolts were sitting under the gearbox tunnel, i just couldnt be arsed as it started raining. So now the gear stick is back on until its a nice day again.
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dont you need to grind the front edge off tho as it hits ont he captive nuts in the tranny tunnel that the gaitor ring bolts to?
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Originally Posted by boXXer
im not saying i CANT do it! I

I've just rebuilt my cossie engine by myself FFS!

I was just saying, that when your half way through a job, and it starts pissing down, it really annoys you.

I basically had it all apart in 10 mins, and when i saw where the 2 bolts were sitting under the gearbox tunnel, i just couldnt be arsed as it started raining. So now the gear stick is back on until its a nice day again.
I didnt think you were going to fit it on account of it being unnecessary?

(genuine question, not a piss take)
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nah, mostly because i had the hump this morning and couldnt be arsed to fit it because of the rain
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Originally Posted by boXXer
nah, mostly because i had the hump this morning and couldnt be arsed to fit it because of the rain
LOL

But its still not good for the gearbox lol
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Originally Posted by RWD_cossie_wil
jesus!! If fitting a T5 quickshift phases you then I would put down the spanners and step away from the car

1) take the centre tray off, have to unplug the window switches as well, and there are a few x-head screws holding the trim in. The gaitor is held down by a plastic square ring, held on by 4 nuts- Take them off, and lift the gaitor up, and take off the top half of the gearstick, 2x 13mm bolts I seem to remember.

2) Don't even have to jack the car up, just stick a jack under the box tail, and take the wieght of the box. Drop the 4x13mm nuts off the captive bolts.

3) gently lower the box so you have access to the 4 bolts holding the shifter in from the top of the tunnel. Remove, and replace with the B&M




, remembering to pack the joint with grease . Bolt on the B&M unti




l it is nipped up, then make sure you can get all the gears. Adjust until its
good, then bolt it in firm, and repeat the removal sequence.


correct peice of piss

Should take you an hour max, is easy peasy
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'refitting is the the reverse of removal'
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