Ive been on this forum for a couple of months now and ive noticed that hardly any YBs are running standalone management ECUs?
The only reason I can think of is the cost but if your spending so much on getting an engine right then I feel skimping on the ECU is a false economy.

What ECUs apart from standard to people on here run?

 

i have an autronics SM4, good piece of kit.

really depends what power level you are looking for, then you can weigh up what you need.

 

They'll be half a dozen folk running Autronic
A high percentage of people use L8 and have it live mapped my either Stu@MSD or Karl@NMS.

 

A few people run Autronic.......But tbh the OE ecu's are more than upto the job

 

Im getting ellicoss's old engine with chip for L8 ECU, its at 420bhp now I believe with potential for 500

I was considering running a Hydra Nemesis as they are a nifty bit of kit and the control side of things is awesome what with 3 different maps switchable on the dashboard, boost control in lower gears and generally more tweeks available.

I was going to run an OMEX 600 on my 106gti engine, maybe I could use that

 

TBH i would go for the system that your mapper is most familar with...

 

i run dta p8

http://www.dtafast.co.uk/P8_PRO.htm

its down to what you want from it

 

aye its true that whatever my mapper is comfortable with.
He doesnt like DTA thinks its quite hard to get the software going,
hes a GEMS/OMEX/MOTEC man and recently did a dual charged golf with a Hydra ECU. Hes a handy guy and to be fair all ecu will do the same thing so im pretty sure he can map anything if its got fuel and spark! Its just the mapping software user friendliness which will cost me more time on the rollers

I suppose I dont need the advanced features of some top level ecus cos i wont be running VVT or 8 injectors I dont think!

Ill have a look at the Autronic and price that up and see what my mapper says about it too.

Heres the Hydra if anyones interested:

http://www.carmodifications.com/

Cheers!

 

by the way engine was built and mapped by Steve Scott A1 Rallysport

 

personaly ur list u have got motec is a very good option

 

Aye but also the most expensive

 

true lol so what exactly you after from a ecu and who are you useing to map it

 

well power is not the issue anymore as this engines going into a spaceframed citroen AX (in projects thread) which will weigh about 800kgs

So its gonna be a bit mental so i really need to have the ability to limit the boost in lower gears to get traction and basically make it more torquey and better on the track as opposed to the 1/4 mile.

U may say just get a lower spec engine but wheres the fun in that

And the rest of the features will be a bonus!

 

Mapping will be done by a dude I know who maps a few rally cars

http://ggmotorsport.co.uk/gallery.shtml

 

mate seriosly look at the dta s60 ecu no gremlins like the p8 and very easy to map

 

400+hp rwd AX You'll spend most of you time going round in circles mate
iirc sm4 will run you £1200+ vat ish

 

if that was the case ill go drifting!
Just sent my mapper a text about the sm4, lets see what he says

 

Another crazy sleeper!

look at the Triumph dolly on here, 600+ bhp, and still on L8

good luck mate.

 

that dolly does look a proper sleeper! I think mine is gonna be a bit wider than standard

Ok, how about i stick with the A1 Chip and then get myself one of those boost controller thingy-me-bobs which has different modes etc?

Ive seen the Apexi things but dont know too much about them. Anyone use that on here?

 

Why would you want different boost levels? Just leave it at maximum and adjust full boost with your right foot.

Unless your maximum boost level is mega unreliable (in which case IMO you shouldnt ever run it) i dont see the point of having a lower level.

And yes, IMO id stick with L8 or P8 and get Stu or similar to live map it on the road. You can run 1000cc injectors, coilpack, etc etc on L8 and P8, so they no restriction on tuning.

Its not the managment, its the mapper id worry about.

 

We run omex a lot on the yb

 

aye i know what your saying and understand that the right foot is the best control. However id like the added feature of switching it off or down for wet surfaces or motorway cruising. Id like to get more out of the car.

I think you are right, I wll go for the L8 and see how it is and I could always add to it later!

Right L8 ecu and loom wanted

 

For a L8 contact North yorks RS spares
For a new loom contact Ryan on here.....i think you might need to let him know if you gonna run Stu's coilpack do-hiky kit or not.
Avcr's are very good if not a little be time consuming to get setup correctly. You may want to look into the new eboost controllers aswell.

 

how much do you think a L8 and loom will cost you ?

 

Why would you need to set it any lower for motorway cruising? Your not gonna be on boost when cruising, and even when going bloody fast, you wont be on full boost, even on a full weight cossie you can cruise at 150mph and not be anywhere near full boost.

Wet weather is a fair point mind, but thats a hard one to judge until you try drive the bugger.

 

aye ill have to see how it goes first before i start spending money on it.
Ill ask Pete RS specialists if he has any about, localish to me too.

 

the new collins managment looks like its going to be a good bit of kit,swaps straight over,and £1000 compared with £2500 autronics,but dont know anyone who has done it yet,but once i hear back good things,thats what il be fitting...in 2008 but as im fucking skint now

 

why not talk to jamsport as your in northampton

 

i have an apexi avc-r that i will be using in the rs200
i will be running L8, coil pack,closed loop.and live mapped by stu at msd.

my thinking is the avc-r can be programmed for in gear boost,low setting for first,getting higher for each gear change,it should save my transmission from eating it`s self alive

dave

 

you can get omex fitted and maped from £1500 which is cheap i think

 

Hi, The l8 has a map file for boost control intake pressure V rpm,
and with the amal valve boost duty cycle rpm, tps control.

Regards Dave R.

 

afternoon david happy newyear

 

I fitted a Haltech E8 to a friends 4x4...wee buns ( relatively speaking of course ), and ya dont need to cock about changing sensors or triggers.

Its quite tame for now but that will change.

The L8 may be very good for some....

But when mere mortals like us cant easily re-map it, its more like a useless box sitting there.
I was quite glad to throw it in the corner.

Depends what each person wants to do with their car, and who is tuning it. Everybody has their own preferences.

 

Hi Jay Thanks & a happy & prosperous new year to you.

Best regards Dave R.

 

ECU's dont produce more power! some tuners push them as they cant map the standard systems!

i run a pectel t6 on mine because i couldnt map the P8

 

Errr ive heard a lot of bad reports about Jamsport, they used to be quite involved with the saxo fraternity but after a few of their project cars turned out crap they havent been back!

Ill think ill go with the L8, does the YB have a knock sensor? If it does then it may push me into getting standalone.

"The l8 has a map file for boost control intake pressure V rpm,
and with the amal valve boost duty cycle rpm, tps control. "

Is this easily mappable by any tuner or do i need to get some fancy software?

 

i know you have a tuner already but give kenny a call at msd next week see if they can help

 

Yes some do have a knock sensor but you don't have to use it.

 

it can run a knock sensor,,, but as daz says you dont have to use it

its not really "fancy" software,,, all good ford tuners will have it! true karl norris at NMS, or stu/kenny at MSD