next year my car is coming off the road and getting a full respray and more power what i basically want to know is how do i get 200bhp in a good solid safe all round package heres a sort of rough spec
engine
steel pistons?, steel conrods, -31 actuator, 5th injector setup, 2wd cossy intercooler, uprate plug leads, ahmed bayjoo chipped ecu, bleed valve and the k&n and mongoose already on the car, what else would the car need
transmission
stage 1 gearbox, and uprated clutch- what has been or is used and rough prices
suspension
uprate the shock and polybush everything
brakes
braided hoses, 2wd cossy front discs 4x4 calipers and 4x4 rear setup
wheels
standard

so would this make the car a safe 200bhp anyone thoughts, prices on the work etc wouldbe appreciated thank you

 

would need an uprated turbo too and would easy see 200bhp

 

£600 for stage 1 CTS box and £250 for organic clutch plus any labour required..

 

You wont want steel pistons though If your still running mfi you may have to go low comp to raise the boost above a bar but im sure somone will correct me if im wrong.

 

i run 18psi on standard pistons

 

would a turbo off a cossy be useful as i think i hear people use erm.
yeah i am keeping mfi so pistons will be ok will the crank be ok aswell or do i need an uprated one

 

would an 1800 crank off a sierra work?

 

wouldnt want to say really

 

crank will be fine i had a cossie 4x4 turbo on mine with a modded .48 housing from a saab turbo

 

why would i use a 1.8 crank out of curiousity

 

Standard Ford plug leads have been fine on mine up to now, running about 230bhp

 

will the head be having some work as well?

 

large front mount cooler
Induction kit,
1 bar boost,
-31,
chipped ecu (for boost)
quality exhaust system
waterinjection...


koni's with -30mm springs
cts stage 1 box
cossie breaks (or better)
organic clutch
strut brace

have a good tuner set it.......200 all day long safe as houses

 

well got some of your list already i got
filter k&n panel
mongoose straight through exhaust with 4" rolled out tip
ahmed bayjoo chipped ecu and -31 collins actuator which will go on, on the 25th by apt

getting all the pipework to use a 2wd intercooler, got the intercooler and reverse charge carrier just got to get straight piping, and 90' bend samcos, then when it comes off road for respray i'll fit it and get the engine checked rebuilt with steel rods, 4x4 turbo, cossy brakes

 

as for headwork not sure i get mixed responses about as i use the car everyday as daily runner i heard that it's best not to get high lift cam fitted as it effect drivability

 

get a proper aftermarket Front mount mate it wone dissapoint, oh and drill the air box

 

GRS/Pro Alloy/Pace Frount mounted Cooler

Stage 2 Turbo

Drilled Airbox

16 psi

Stage 1 box and Organic Clutch


Should all work nicely for 200 bhp at the Flywheel

As above and with low comp pistons and a Stage 2 head should see 200 bhp at the wheels with 20 psi

 

gonna use a cossy t3 good for 270bhp????

 

I saw 205bhp with the following mods, and its seems to be bullet proof,
stage 3 big valve head
piper 285 cam
stage 2 h/b turbo, collins
some pistons that cost me £780
fifth inj
and a chip

 

mate of mine was running 201 bhp

large front mount cooler
Induction kit,
1 bar boost,
-31,
chipped ecu (for boost)
quality exhaust system
extra swirl pot

see 201bhp the the torque its well over 230

with a set up an jamsport on there rollers

oh on stradard breaks, box and on 15's

 

to get a good reliable 200 brake think this recommended spec would be good :-

a full tune
upgraded chip & actuator
bigger intercooler or even a chargecooler
cone filter
exhaust
ht leads 8MM or above ( stds are crap )
plugs ( YQC57C )
fully worked head
cam-kit
clutche
at this spec the turbo & gearbox should be fine im sure theirs cars out there running 200+ on std turbos & boxs.

 

I saw 205bhp with the following mods, and its seems to be bullet proof,
stage 3 big valve head
piper 285 cam
stage 2 h/b turbo, collins
some pistons that cost me £780
fifth inj
and a chip
I forgot about the
4" magnex
Pace intercooler

 

std leads are excellent

dont personally like champion plugs but each to their own and whoever sets it up will choose the plugs anyway

dont need a worked head for 200hp.

speak to NMS for advice as they have always been excellent for me

 

what makes you say dont need a worked head for a REAL 200 brake, & how old are the last rs turbo ht leads????????

 

as i say there are plenty of ways to get somewhere and everyone has an opinion, just my 2p worth

IMO from what i have seen and been shown then you really have to be carefull of the fueling when porting the head as its not the best of our MFI cars

what do you mean how old are the leads? buy new ford ones for about £20

 

200bhp will not need major mods, forget all the bullshit pubtalk stuff,

start with the normal, chip, exhaust, air filter
bigger intercooler, half width will be ok
standard turbo is fine for 17psi
an up-rated cam will help but most of them these days wear out quickly

if your car has enough fuelling to hold the 17psi that should see around the 200bhp mark. if you want a bit more or it falls short of the 200 mark it may need more fuel, this is where a 5th injector is needed & maybe an up rated pump, couple this with a hybrid T3 turbo (stage 2) & you should sail over 200bhp & still have a car that is good to drive

 

spot on IMO, you dont need over the top mods to make 200bhp at all.

 

as GUZZLER said

 

what do you mean how old are the leads? buy new ford ones for about
£20

i mean the ford ht leads were designed 20 years ago what you saying thay gonna be better than say magnecor?? the ford leads dont provide proper & permanent RFI & EMI suppression to avoid interference to electronic management systems, ice etc also the std leads cant cope with high temps like these NEW UP TO DATE DESIGNED SILICONE RUBBER HT LEADS just my thoughts, you get what you pay.

 

thanks for all the reply seems like their are more than one way to skin a cat!
well i'll talk to christain at apt when i feel like the time has come for more as "pops" says just get a cossy, and a 2wd cossy sounds very lush to me but 20, 2yr's ncd and no garage to park it in overnight i don't see it happening