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Old Jul 10, 2006 | 06:24 PM
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rights its a S2 ERST, got a little bit of smoke from cold start, hope its stem seals its 90k standard engine,

how difficult are they to change, cant find it in haynes manual.

oh and where can i buy the seals i have the tool already

hope its not piston rings
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Old Jul 10, 2006 | 06:33 PM
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You don't want Ford ones, they are pants. I can't remember who makes the decent ones, I think it may be Piper.... Hold on, Piper make something decent??? Surely not


It may be your turbo that causes the smoke too, just so you know.
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Old Jul 10, 2006 | 06:33 PM
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If it's only smoking from cold I would start with the stem seals. Go to Ford and get the one piece top hat type seal. You will also need a valve spring compressor. I would take all the spark plugs out to make turning the engine over by hand easier (you need to bring the piston you are working on to the top of its stroke to prevent the valve dissapearing into the combustion chamber). Also push a rag into the oilways of the valve you are working on as dropping a valve collet into the engine is a right fucker.

It should only take about 2 hours to do.

Be wary the car may struggle to start as oil is allowed to get into the chamber when the old seals are removed.
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Old Jul 10, 2006 | 06:38 PM
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oh crap u mentioned the fatel word CEARFUL, i'll get some to do it, ive got the compressor, how much are they usually from ford???

yer its only on cold start, i look when im on load ans cant see smoke following me so hope this will sort it, its not rely using oil either
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Old Jul 10, 2006 | 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Tony Turbo
You don't want Ford ones, they are pants.
I've always used the Ford parts and never had so much as a sniff of trouble ever
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Old Jul 10, 2006 | 06:48 PM
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You don't want Ford ones, they are pants.
I've always used the Ford parts and never had so much as a sniff of trouble ever

Somebody makes a modified version which is meant to be much higher quality.
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Old Jul 10, 2006 | 07:08 PM
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blooming ell what should i do the car is never gonna be more that 200 break?????????????

tony if u remember who makes the aftermarket ones let me know plesae fella

other than that i think i'll just use standard stuff
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Old Jul 10, 2006 | 07:13 PM
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I'm 90% sure it is Pooper
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Old Jul 10, 2006 | 07:14 PM
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Horse power has nothing to do with it. They can go hard and crack. The modified ones are (I think) two piece and have a hole drilled in them.
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Old Jul 10, 2006 | 07:20 PM
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any ideas where i can get them fella and a price, they gotta de done

what are the pit falls if not havving it done, what eventually happens??????
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I thought it was the two piece ones that were th naff ones to be avoided and that was why Ford revised them to th esingle piece top hat design.

Might be a million miles off though
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Old Jul 10, 2006 | 07:32 PM
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That's why I said I think. Don't take my word for it, I play computer games for a living, ask someone who builds engines

But I have been told by several people not to get them from Ford.
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Old Jul 10, 2006 | 07:36 PM
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bugger, so i need the 1 piece ones reguardless then
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Old Jul 10, 2006 | 07:41 PM
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I don't think we have established that yet
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what do u have on yours???
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I run the one piece top hat ones on mine and they seem fine

The job isn't very hard at all mate, as Oranoco says, remove the plugs and put a rag in the oil ways (i have a collet floating around in my sump ), and remember to do numbers 1 & 4 first, then spin the bottom end over 180 degrees and do numbers 2 & 3.

It's not very hard mate you should be fine

Oh and Oranoco ive had my pistons ABDC, the valves are just slightly too long to get lost
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Originally Posted by SafeChav
Oh and Oranoco ive had my pistons ABDC, the valves are just slightly too long to get lost
I'd have felt a right tit having to strip the head off so just didn't chance it
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Well..............i did it intenionally. Long story cut short i did a LOT of work to the car, started it up and it was pissing out with smoke and i found a vlave guide had slipped down, so i thought i may aswell try the best i could before taking the head off, ended up cracking the guide so it came off anyway.

Definately wouldn't recommend it anyway just incase
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Old Jul 10, 2006 | 08:21 PM
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maybe i'll tery taking the old ones out of my fucked head and puttin them back in for practice
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Thats definately a good plan, the only thing you will find is some of the collets will be very tight and will push the valves open, where as normally you use the pistons to pop them free
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Old Jul 10, 2006 | 08:33 PM
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can di i'll jsut put in on other bottem end
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Originally Posted by marky_g
can di i'll jsut put in on other bottem end
You do that then see if i care
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Originally Posted by marky_g
what do u have on yours???

Fuck knows........ Ask Christian
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Old Jul 10, 2006 | 09:42 PM
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ha ha ha ok fella its stage 3 head urs aint it????? me some mental titaninum stuff ha ha ha ha
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Old Jul 11, 2006 | 05:53 AM
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Originally Posted by marky_g
ha ha ha ok fella its stage 3 head urs aint it?????

Sort of close, it's a custom made head
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