Ed1

Thanks - I wasnt feeling it today either, i was hoping for 8 reps. I know i dont keep my arse firm on the bench all the time!

when i start to struggle i do lift, i try to arch my back like the poster says on the gym wall but keep my arse on the bench, easier said than done though

Kieron

Sorry Benni but I've got to agree with Coldo.

Much respect for backing it up with the vids tho Ed!! First person to do so, so I applaud you. The only PF member in the 100 bench club as no-one else has done so. Despite the arse lifting theres no doubt you could do one laying totally flat.

F99, is that you in the vid?? What can you bench properly? 150kgs is ALOT of weight to hold arms locked let alone lower down a bit.

F99 REV

iTrader: (1)

should keep your back flat on the bench mate. wots with the belt??
big weight tho for your size

Ed1

My arse dont come off the bench untill about rep number 5 though, just arching my back.

Ed1

You are spoze to arch your back.

Its a lifting belt, you never seen one before? lol

F99 REV

iTrader: (1)

no thats my mate i was filming was just messing about seeing wot we can lift, i can do 125kg propely and he can do 135kgs as i have torn the ligaments in my sholder, and 110kg incline and 120kg decline

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iTrader: (1)

na me and my mates keep our backs flat!
and yer i see a cup'l small men up the gym wereing belts but us big men dont need them as our backs our strong as we do dead lifts!! haha

Ed1

@ us big men!

I deadlift too actually, my personal best is one rep max of 190kg, that was a while ago and i dont think id be able to do it again.

andyxpax

5 10 17 stone 21 inch neck and hate weights bought up on a farm till i joined up in 85 running my mile and a half in 9 min 45sec still playing Rugby at the old of 45 front row of course

Kieron

Mate, in the vid I'm watching of 7 reps I would say that your arse is off for all of them. Not as noticeable on rep one but rep two yes and three definately.

To be honest though, I'm not wishing to piss on your parade at all as what you have proven, I think, is still very good and I don't wish to take that away from you by nit picking about form. So I apologise for that and I can assure you that you've impressed me. You can definately see some good muscle development in your frame.

Ed1

Thanks, I thought to myself, they will prob find somthing to moan about anyway so its all as expected

Kieron

On a side note mate, you won't need that belt if you bench with your arse down. By arching you are putting pressure on the discs in your back, more so on incline imho. The arching of the back should only be minimal just to keep good posture rather than slumping your gut downwards.

But yeah, moan and pick we will.

Ed1

I do try to keep my back down. With lighter weight I do. Thanks for the advice though. It wasn't long ago I couldn't do 7 on 50kg's

muz

To be fair, thats impressive going for your size. I'd personally be inclined to use a lower weight with better form, but fair play for proving you can do it. From your old pics I thought you were full of shit if I'm honest, but you can see when you're lifting you've got more build now.

I can't wait to get my army training out of the way so I can smash the weights again. I know at my new boxing weight of 69KG I couldn't rep 100 no way, but quite tempted to get my cousin spotting me and try a 5 rep on 90kg.

Ed1

Thanks mate, its nice to hear a compliment

Yeah I agree with you, I normally rep 90kg for 10, I can keep better form with that weight, Once I get stronger my form with come with it too

Also i ache alot more when i go high reps. we do a little bench on fridays, lighter weight, more reps which i feel is much better, but all depends on what your going for.
I do like aching though

dave cos4x4

iTrader: (5)

well done mate.

just goes to show that it IS possible and no steroids needed lol to lift that weight and rep it.

as for arching your back, EVERYONE else must do it perfect then.

muz

it be done, Dave, it's just rare for lads that size to genuinely rep it. As you can see from the video he is arching his back too much, lifting his arse and slightly rocking the weight and not straight up (well the vid looks that way all IMO of course) BUT he's still putting the weight up which I'm genuinely impressed with.
When your smaller like Ed and myself, small ammounts of body weight make a big difference to what u can lift. If he was 80kg it would be easier to believe as 5kg of muscle would make all the difference.

Kieron

Just so we're sure, what are we betting on here?

Benni

I've never said what I can lift, as I try my best to forget about the weight I am lifting, and focus on form. Ed, you could have gotten a couple more with a good spotter mate, helping you bring it up and letting you bring it down slowly by yourself.

So Coldo's 'Lies...', was a bit silly, wasn't it.


Benni.

Coldo

Roughly translated into "i'm weak as fuck and embarrassed about it so i bang on about focusing on form"

Man up Benni.

As for me calling him out being silly, it wasn't really, ED has lifted (imo) a mega impressive weight for his on bodyweight, repping bodyweight +20kg is very good going, don't see many people doing it.

Ed1

Thanks Benni, its nice to get back into training. we have just started a new routine which seems to be working well. How are you getting on these days?

Thanks Coldo, nice to hear a compliment, I go to the gym for myself because I like to see the gains but its always nice to hear someone compliment.

Benni

Well if I called someone a liar, and they proved otherwise, I'd feel a bit silly myself, personally. Man up!? Because I chose not to tell everyone how much I lift. I don't even do flat bench, so couldn't tell you even if I wanted too.

Benni.

jon100e

What do you do instead of flat bench Benni? Flat bench is the core exercise for chest (imo).

As for not banging on about what you bench. Fair play.

Ed - Good lifting for your bodyweight mate I prefer to keep my back flat on the bench but thats only my personal preference.

Benni

Decline instead of flat mate. From what I've read, and from my own personal feelings, I do think it's better than the flat for overall chest development.

Benni.

Kieron

There seems to be alot of people banging on about this fact too all over the net. Although I'm not convinced that its better for overall chest development like folks are say. TBH you can count the number of times I've done decline on one hand and I don't feel I've suffered for it. Most people I see doing decline tend to hold their shoulders awkwardly.

If it works for an individual though then keep at it. We are all different.

P412KER

i usually vary between flat bench, to flat d/b bench, but i also do inc and decline aswell as close grp on chest day....

Benni

I honestly don't feel flat nowhere near as good as decline. If you was to go all technical and biological, it does put your arms at the perfect angle to fully work the chest. If I start with decline, my incline dumbell poundages have to drop right down as my chest is ruined. But like you say, were all different, from build to stance etc.

Benni

gibbo frst

iTrader: (2)

a few lads at my work have been saying that they have started using decline as their main chest excersise after watching the dorian yates blood and guts stuff where he recomends it. ive been meaning to give it a try but in the past when ive tried decline it just felt my arms were doing most of the work..

dave cos4x4

iTrader: (5)

Kieron,

that i can do the 10x100 kg and the 136-140kg...that ok.

Ed1

Lies......

Kieron

Quality.

Ed1

I couldn't resist! sorry

Benni

Fpmsl... I roared at that.

Benni.

dave cos4x4

iTrader: (5)

you did did you lol, well you get to Dave Lloyd and we will see lol.

pm me when you will be there.

dave cos4x4

iTrader: (5)

i don't mean i can do 10x 136, just do one rep of them,sorry if i may have confused you.

i can piss the 10x100, thats no problem.

jon100e

I trained chest tonight. Did 100kg for 15, 110kg for 12, 120kg for 10 no spotter. Managed 130kg for 8 and 140kg for 6 with a spotter. Last two on these sets was hard. I'm 6ft 2 and 17st 9 and no gear. Was well happy with it!! Pumped!!

dave cos4x4

iTrader: (5)

Jon,

no one will believe you on here,they think everyone cannot do it because they carn't.

Benni

You've missed why I laughed. He was taking the piss out of Coldo, and that made me laugh. I don't doubt you for one second.

Benni.

Kieron

Dave,

I was being facetious, taking the piss. You've given two different max lifts.

I thought you got that when you amended your original reply to add in the 140.

and you are taking everything too seriously on this thread mate, like all the replies are a personal insult to you. Go with the flow dude. Either that yor you are just dying to prove yourself by forcing us to bet with you.

Kieron

Thats some good lifting mate.

But I call Lies......