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Old 18-09-2013, 01:15 PM
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hi guys

been viewing many projects on this forum for a while so though i would share mine with you guys too

just something i am doing in my spare time for a friend / workmate

the car was built by chris birbecks and used by luke pinder

it was quite a well specced car

-puma 1400 kit car engine ( basically de stroked 1700 , designed and built by swindon race engines originally )

-pectal t2

-ricardo 6 speed dog box

-s1600 4 pot alcons 304 mm discs

- ka challenge proflex coilovers

- puma bias pedal box

- the rest was standard ka challenge spec

since my friend has converted it to a sadev 5 peed sequential gearbox from fiesta r2 due to poor reliability of 6 speed ricardo

also converted it from standard puma inlet manifold to throttle bodies for better drivability

it had a few niggles and issues and had not been properly rebuilt for a while so i offered to help out

and as it normally does it has kinda got of hand !!!

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first jobs i was asked to do

- make an airbox as it was on those terrible individual foam trumpet filters and when you closed the bonnet it basically blocked the trumpets

- also sort re occurring electrical issues

but everywhere i looked it had been bodged or thrown together

things like handbrake sticking on as no bushes or bearing in base

battery moved into boot but used original wires so a bare connection under bonnet

cheap box section seat mounts with nut and bolts holding seat to it

and the list just goes on and on and most of the things were done by a supposed professional rally prep company

i seen some shocking things in my 12 years of working in the motorsport industry but i still get surprised by lack of care or attention to detail

i will add more photo s soon
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Cool.Does it go well then.
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Looks awesome Will keep an eye out for updates.
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Smart little roller boot
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Originally Posted by Glenn_
Cool.Does it go well then.
155 bhp and 865 kg geared for 105 mph

it accelerated quite well

all ready got rid of 23 kgs so far

sounds good as revs to 9200
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Originally Posted by sgracing
155 bhp and 865 kg geared for 105 mph

it accelerated quite well

all ready got rid of 23 kgs so far

sounds good as revs to 9200
bet it does are you at wyredean rally in february
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Originally Posted by sgracing
hi guys

been viewing many projects on this forum for a while so though i would share mine with you guys too

just something i am doing in my spare time for a friend / workmate

the car was built by chris birbecks and used by luke pinder

it was quite a well specced car

-puma 1400 kit car engine ( basically de stroked 1700 , designed and built by swindon race engines originally )

-pectal t2

-ricardo 6 speed dog box

-s1600 4 pot alcons 304 mm discs

- ka challenge proflex coilovers

- puma bias pedal box

- the rest was standard ka challenge spec

since my friend has converted it to a sadev 5 peed sequential gearbox from fiesta r2 due to poor reliability of 6 speed ricardo

also converted it from standard puma inlet manifold to throttle bodies for better drivability

it had a few niggles and issues and had not been properly rebuilt for a while so i offered to help out

and as it normally does it has kinda got of hand !!!






first jobs i was asked to do

- make an airbox as it was on those terrible individual foam trumpet filters and when you closed the bonnet it basically blocked the trumpets

- also sort re occurring electrical issues

but everywhere i looked it had been bodged or thrown together

things like handbrake sticking on as no bushes or bearing in base

battery moved into boot but used original wires so a bare connection under bonnet

cheap box section seat mounts with nut and bolts holding seat to it

and the list just goes on and on and most of the things were done by a supposed professional rally prep company

i seen some shocking things in my 12 years of working in the motorsport industry but i still get surprised by lack of care or attention to detail

i will add more photo s soon
Chris Birkbeck runs his Company from a farm next too the village I live in most of his staff are cash in hand (non motorsport trained) just people who will work cheaply.(This is ok if your staff are capable at their job)
I've knownChris Birkbeck for 20 years and have worked on several of his customers cars that he has farmed out to other companies to fix problems that his staff can't fix or have cocked up.

Steve
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well im not sure whos responsible for the issues so cant really point the finger

here are some shots of it being stripped

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and this was the clearance between trumpets and bonnet

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as you can see the inlet manifold gave clearance over alternator but it was shaped like a periscope and was full of silicone gasket so it must of flowed very poorly also can see steel trumpets !!! and spacers
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so i then i decided i would have to strip it right back and start again

removed the radiator and cut the front panel off
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nice pas pump feed pipe going right across engine bay with a joiner in the middle
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check out the solid engine mount but gearbox was on polyurethane bushes

puma s1600 engine and box was solid mounted but you just end up welding up cracks in the shell so that has to go

i need to relocate alternator as it was in the way of a different inlet

at this point i tried jenvey direct to head bodies but also hit the bonnet so i started to design my own manifold

i found i could use a air con model pas bracket which relocated pump to the rear of the engine so now i can fit the alternator lower gaining space for manifold and decent air box

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engine bay cleared of crap
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well i dont have many pictures of inside before it was stripped but it had full dash and wires everywhere , everything was nut and bolted and a pain to remove

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these photos are from last year and now its in my own garage and a lot has changed but i will slowly upload more pictures and show progress
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Sounding good so far mate. It makes for a good project having to rectify the crap someone else has done. Plenty of headaches though lol.
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Yeh get more pics posted. It sounds like a fun car.
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So

at this point the owner decided that we would

-stiffen up the front end ( which is notoriously weak ) but didnt want to go full weld in cage at that point so some additions instead

-improve driving position as steering column was too high and far away and seat to high

-improve gear change

-improve cooling package

-improve engine and incorporated a new air box but not having hole in bonnet and be able to still use lamp pod

-loss weight

-re-wire

so first up , he bought a cheap cosworth alloy radiator from ebay , which i was shocked how heavy it was and that it was cast including the core !!! cheap and nasty but just bought to cut up and mock up

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then on to the front end

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so as you can see in the last picture the massive sadev standard gear lever that weighs alot , as he was complaining of poor gear change we changed to a fiesta r2 gear stick as it about 50% lighter and the ratio is different and as this is what the gearbox is out of, it made sense to use the same lever ratio the gearbox was designed for

also you can see the crapy steering column mount which needed a bolt on dash support to give it strength , so my plan was to remove dash bar as it weighed a ton and make a new mount that moved the column , made it adjustable and didnt need a bar to support it

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new spec

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then on to the seat mounts , bit of lightening first original seat boxes removed

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and better gear stick mount

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quick mock up

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cut down dash

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well that will do for today think we are up to jan 2013
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Looks good Steve

You do the welding and metal work?
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Looks great! Nice fabrication work.
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Originally Posted by M K
Looks good Steve

You do the welding and metal work?
yes marc
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so bit more of a catch up

so heres the modified front panel and pro alloy made us a radiator to our dimensions with out pipes as i will weld these on later

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so then i wanted to finish off the rest of the front panel from this
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to this
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designed to mount headlamp , bonnet pin and damper canister saddles

then to lower front bar to mount sump guard which in turn will hold bottom of bumper also centre of the bumper

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also fitted bosses/brackets to mount varies things , like my shortened header tank ,earth studs and clutch reservoir etc

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engine is in and out all the time to mock up but only take s 5 min to fit

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bit of lightening

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and back inside mounts for smaller battery , master relay ( cut off , isolator ) and new switch panel fuse box( aka the coffin )

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and new tray to hold engine ecu and gearbox ecu , fitted with slide latches for easy removal

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well thats enough for tonight
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This is awesome. I love rally car builds like this
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Originally Posted by paulyzetec
This is awesome. I love rally car builds like this
thank you paul
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back again

hope im not boring you guys , without turbos etc

deal with turbo cars all the time at work , so a n/a screamer is a joy to work with

ok so clearance between exhaust and driveshaft was about feck all and manifold was a bit tired so i got a used fiesta r2 manifold on the cheap
which is much nicer i just have to change the collector to suit a 1400
however to fit this i need to modify the bulkhead a touch

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collector removed

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on to the front wings , first off make them bolt on instead on weld on .

if anyone has used a ka in competition the wheel arches are a nightmare , fall off because crapy plastic clips , if you want to remove them properly it takes about 4 million hours ,
so wheel arches had to be mounted alot better

from this

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to this

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as you can see a lot more clearance for the wheel which is good because she gonna be a bit wider track !!!
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Interesting build!
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Great project there! Updates please..
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well been flat out with work and other things

so had no time for showing this project

so inlet manifold !!
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so no chance of airbox or any decent flow
there was nothing on the market that fitted , jenvey direct to heads needed a hole in the bonnet , which was a no go with lampod

so i decided to make my own , after getting some flanges i need to form the tube to match the head .

so i made a die at work and pressed the alloy tube on it and it formed the shape of the head port

then i designed a bend as there was nothing on the shelf and got is specially bent which was quite expensive as it is alloy

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then used the same throttle bodies to keep cost down

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not the engine mount on this pic

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not ideal but much better than before

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back to the engine mount

was huge and was solid , and had cracks from stress already so i found a mount i made about 10 years ago which fits

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so now need to in fill and strengthen the leg and add a mount for the inner wheel arch liner

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that will do for tonight
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Great updates!
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As i said before alot of time and skill gone into this.

Just goes to show how much work goes into a good rally car.

Makes my Fiesta look like childs play.lol
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thanks for comments
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Superb! We need videos when you've finished lol
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so a little more to show

the front inner edge of the bonnet has a large reinforcement where the catch latches on which takes up alot of space , which i want for the airbox

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so i thought i would try something we had a new bonnet with a slight dent in so got it for a tenner . i removed the outer skin and then went about lightening the inner frame and shortening it too

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i then made a new reinforcement and cut it and bent it to the shape of the skin and welded all the cuts so it is curved like the original , not finished yet needs a tidy up

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now there is a larger opening for the airbox !!

now on to the front suspension

well it not ideal on the front limited travel , quite weak and turrets not in best location , if you lower the car you soon run out of damper travel before the body gets low . this ka runs 15 in gravel tyres which is half the problem but the brakes are to big for anything smaller and i dont think me colleague wants to change the brakes !!

so there is no subframe as such just 2 individual wishbone carriers , so i wanted to strengthen these and also bring the gearbox rear mount closer to the gearbox as the original is massive and comes from the body which makes it very long

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now the wishbones are bolted in with a nut and bolt , which is total shite and when there is a force transmitted up the wishbone to the mount it can flex

so i wanted to make it use a boss and i wanted to transmit the force into the shell which will make it much stronger
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on to the gearbox mount i cut the original and used this as a jig
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then back in with the engine and box hold it in position and make the mount on the subframe

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thats it for the moment
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Love the fab work
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wow great work matey that welding looks superb
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thanks
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Looking good


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any updates?
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Great work there.
Just wandering how you are going to fit the steering rack.
Is the exhaust not in the way?
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Thats cool as fook. Keep up the good work.
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wicked project
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Originally Posted by cader
Great work there.
Just wandering how you are going to fit the steering rack.
Is the exhaust not in the way?
wait and see

im still bout 6 months behind on update s

when i get time
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Originally Posted by sgracing
wait and see

im still bout 6 months behind on update s

when i get time
Ok thanks.

What size tubing are you using on the subframe bracing and front end bracing?

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25mm x1.6 cds on subframe
Old 21-11-2013, 09:20 PM
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so as there are some issues with the standard ka geometry on the front

i decided to measure all the major points and put them in to a computer program and see what the craic was

and to see if things could be improved which they can !!

so as some have noticed the steering rack mounts have been removed , due to the new exhaust manifold

then i made a bar to mount the rack and moved it very slightly to get the best position for bumpsteer

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also i tidied up the lhd chassis leg and matched it to the other side . and get rid of unwanted hole brackets etc

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also the bulkhead was full of holes where the s1600 pedal box was fitted so i wanted to repair and strengthen this

and also i need to redesign the pedal box as it a bit average !
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Proper stuff Steve

More updates please
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Brilliant thread, some really impressive work going into this! Well impressed!

Bet this little car will show some much more powerful machinery a clean pair of heels.

Look fwd to more pics.


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