Mk4 Fiesta
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Mk4 Fiesta
Hello Haters! :wave:
This doesnt have an RS or Cosworth badge, so you guys wont read it anyway...but....
Remember this?
Well, it got slated and I was immediately labelled a "barry boy"
The project has carried on, obviously (I told you it wasnt finished )
Firstly Leda Fully Adjustable Coilovers were fitted
Followed by a Milltek 4-2-1 stainless with Decat and Singlebox Piper Catback
Then on the way home from Mansfield, the 1.25 went with massive bottom end failure, resulting in a snapped conrod and a hole in the block. I knew it was about to let go and had prepared to begin an engine swap in the next two days of the breakdown.
All my parts ready for the swap, worth more than the car
Replacement Engine painted Kawasaki Green
Dash out, interior stripped of everything!
Engine raised for extra ground clearance
MK5 Zetec S brakes
Zetec S Front bumper
Zetec S Rear bumper and sideskirts
Resprayed Matt Black with rattle cans
This doesnt have an RS or Cosworth badge, so you guys wont read it anyway...but....
Remember this?
Well, it got slated and I was immediately labelled a "barry boy"
The project has carried on, obviously (I told you it wasnt finished )
Firstly Leda Fully Adjustable Coilovers were fitted
Followed by a Milltek 4-2-1 stainless with Decat and Singlebox Piper Catback
Then on the way home from Mansfield, the 1.25 went with massive bottom end failure, resulting in a snapped conrod and a hole in the block. I knew it was about to let go and had prepared to begin an engine swap in the next two days of the breakdown.
All my parts ready for the swap, worth more than the car
Replacement Engine painted Kawasaki Green
Dash out, interior stripped of everything!
Engine raised for extra ground clearance
MK5 Zetec S brakes
Zetec S Front bumper
Zetec S Rear bumper and sideskirts
Resprayed Matt Black with rattle cans
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Its a cheap car built for fun! Why not??? (see below for washers Q)
He's raising the engine for more ground clearance as the exhaust manifold catches and scrapes, which allows him to go lower. He's using washers with high tensile bolts, Im sure he could get some proper spacers made when he's happy with the ground clearance! Pretty good idea if you ask me!
Any more questions??
Any more questions??
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Yes.
Why not just sort the exhaust out so it doesn't scrape, or is the car that low? If so, what effect has a drop of that magnitude had on the geometry, and therefore the handling?
And what effect has raising the engine had on the cars centre of gravity?
Why not just sort the exhaust out so it doesn't scrape, or is the car that low? If so, what effect has a drop of that magnitude had on the geometry, and therefore the handling?
And what effect has raising the engine had on the cars centre of gravity?
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The actual 4-2-1 Manifold Sits low, to sort it "properly" It would need to be cut, shortened, and rewelded, This will make things complicated in regards to space, and....If I was as worried as you, Mess up the "flow" from the exhaust Manifold. The main factor is cost, rasing the engine just 1/2 an inch, has helped alot with clearance issues, and best yet, it cost me absolutely nothing!!
The geometry, well, my bottom arms and bushes wont last a second, tyre wear will be uneven. I intend to modify Some bottom arms to arms and make them adjustable so my camber can be adjusted to suit.
As for The centre of gravity...Its awfffullll, I attatched the sensors to the G meter and found that handling effiency is decreased by 36.2% which sounds minimal but has had a severe effect on handling characteristics....
....*psst* Its a mk4 fiesta, its cheap, its fun and most importantly, I can do I like to it!
when did I mislead you into thinking this was a unlimited budget Cosworth?
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Do you work for the British Space Program???
The actual 4-2-1 Manifold Sits low, to sort it "properly" It would need to be cut, shortened, and rewelded, This will make things complicated in regards to space, and....If I was as worried as you, Mess up the "flow" from the exhaust Manifold. The main factor is cost, rasing the engine just 1/2 an inch, has helped alot with clearance issues, and best yet, it cost me absolutely nothing!!
The geometry, well, my bottom arms and bushes wont last a second, tyre wear will be uneven. I intend to modify Some bottom arms to arms and make them adjustable so my camber can be adjusted to suit.
As for The centre of gravity...Its awfffullll, I attatched the sensors to the G meter and found that handling effiency is decreased by 36.2% which sounds minimal but has had a severe effect on handling characteristics....
....*psst* Its a mk4 fiesta, its cheap, its fun and most importantly, I can do I like to it!
when did I mislead you into thinking this was a unlimited budget Cosworth?
The actual 4-2-1 Manifold Sits low, to sort it "properly" It would need to be cut, shortened, and rewelded, This will make things complicated in regards to space, and....If I was as worried as you, Mess up the "flow" from the exhaust Manifold. The main factor is cost, rasing the engine just 1/2 an inch, has helped alot with clearance issues, and best yet, it cost me absolutely nothing!!
The geometry, well, my bottom arms and bushes wont last a second, tyre wear will be uneven. I intend to modify Some bottom arms to arms and make them adjustable so my camber can be adjusted to suit.
As for The centre of gravity...Its awfffullll, I attatched the sensors to the G meter and found that handling effiency is decreased by 36.2% which sounds minimal but has had a severe effect on handling characteristics....
....*psst* Its a mk4 fiesta, its cheap, its fun and most importantly, I can do I like to it!
when did I mislead you into thinking this was a unlimited budget Cosworth?
So to sort one problem, you create another? Wab Its going to be easier to sort and exhaust than try and fab bottom arms etc.
I used to have a mk4 1.25 it was just as low and it actually handled brilliantly.
To be honest you need to stop messing around with spacers and just sort the manifold out. Which if its decent should have good clearance in the first place.
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WTF
Fair play, its just not the way I would have done it thats all.
What Paul said
Thats HILARIOUS!!! lol lol lol lol lol pmsl rofl lmao lol lol lol lol lol
And when did I say this was an unlimited budget cosworth?
All I did was ask a few questions, because I am of a technical disposition (trans: yeh i like tech stuff init safe lol lol lol lol lol) as I wouldnt have thought of/done that myself; all Im trying to do is understand the reasoning behind your ideas and all I get is some smart arse sarcastic (though HILARIOUS lol lol lol lol lol lol lol) reply that frankly only deserves a response like this one (lol lol lol lol lol lol pmsl pmsl lmao)
I'll just stop replying in this thread as I can see all Im going to get is sarcasm and attitude for asking something when I was invited to do so.
You crack on
The actual 4-2-1 Manifold Sits low, to sort it "properly" It would need to be cut, shortened, and rewelded, This will make things complicated in regards to space, and....If I was as worried as you, Mess up the "flow" from the exhaust Manifold. The main factor is cost, rasing the engine just 1/2 an inch, has helped alot with clearance issues, and best yet, it cost me absolutely nothing!!
As for The centre of gravity...Its awfffullll, I attatched the sensors to the G meter and found that handling effiency is decreased by 36.2% which sounds minimal but has had a severe effect on handling characteristics....
....*psst* Its a mk4 fiesta, its cheap, its fun and most importantly, I can do I like to it!
when did I mislead you into thinking this was a unlimited budget Cosworth?
....*psst* Its a mk4 fiesta, its cheap, its fun and most importantly, I can do I like to it!
when did I mislead you into thinking this was a unlimited budget Cosworth?
And when did I say this was an unlimited budget cosworth?
All I did was ask a few questions, because I am of a technical disposition (trans: yeh i like tech stuff init safe lol lol lol lol lol) as I wouldnt have thought of/done that myself; all Im trying to do is understand the reasoning behind your ideas and all I get is some smart arse sarcastic (though HILARIOUS lol lol lol lol lol lol lol) reply that frankly only deserves a response like this one (lol lol lol lol lol lol pmsl pmsl lmao)
I'll just stop replying in this thread as I can see all Im going to get is sarcasm and attitude for asking something when I was invited to do so.
You crack on
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Thats HILARIOUS!!! lol lol lol lol lol pmsl rofl lmao lol lol lol lol lol
And when did I say this was an unlimited budget cosworth?
All I did was ask a few questions, because I am of a technical disposition (trans: yeh i like tech stuff init safe lol lol lol lol lol) as I wouldnt have thought of/done that myself; all Im trying to do is understand the reasoning behind your ideas and all I get is some smart arse sarcastic (though HILARIOUS lol lol lol lol lol lol lol) reply that frankly only deserves a response like this one (lol lol lol lol lol lol pmsl pmsl lmao)
I'll just stop replying in this thread as I can see all Im going to get is sarcasm and attitude for asking something when I was invited to do so.
You crack on
And when did I say this was an unlimited budget cosworth?
All I did was ask a few questions, because I am of a technical disposition (trans: yeh i like tech stuff init safe lol lol lol lol lol) as I wouldnt have thought of/done that myself; all Im trying to do is understand the reasoning behind your ideas and all I get is some smart arse sarcastic (though HILARIOUS lol lol lol lol lol lol lol) reply that frankly only deserves a response like this one (lol lol lol lol lol lol pmsl pmsl lmao)
I'll just stop replying in this thread as I can see all Im going to get is sarcasm and attitude for asking something when I was invited to do so.
You crack on
Touchy.
Predjudicial.
Honestly, lighten up...I'm just sick of getting stick of people for when I'm "not doing this" or "doing that"
And from many threads Ive read I thought Passionford was a sarcastic comment?
Can you honestly say raising an engine in a Fiesta 1/2 an inch...is going to have a noticable effect on the handling let alone a major one?
Its not difficult to fabricate adjustable bottom arms, I know whats needed. If I fail, I can purchase Area six bottom arms. Simples *squeek*
And even if it was slightly lowered it would upset the geometry, Its not much different from Adjustable TCA's on your ageing Sierra's
Oh, and I like the part about me being a chav :laugh:
Epic.
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Im touchy? I asked some questions about it, mainly because I'd not heard of anyone raising an engine for the reasons you stated (I wasn't the only one was I?), and you couldnt jump on me fast enough
I'm Prejudicial? You are too then after inferring I am some kind of geek, working for the space program etc etc Just because I asked a technical question
I have no idea what raising the engine will do as I've not done it, though its safe to assume raising the centre of gravity can have a detrimental effect is it not? Maybe half an inch wont make it roll at the first hint of lateral loading, but I never said it would
And I'm not giving you stick, let alone because your not doing it your own way, I was asking why you are doing it that way, as it seems a little extreme to me. Fair play for doing it your own way though, hence the "you crack on " at the end of my previous post.
I am a hypocrite though, seeing as I said I wouldn't reply again
Im touchy? I asked some questions about it, mainly because I'd not heard of anyone raising an engine for the reasons you stated (I wasn't the only one was I?), and you couldnt jump on me fast enough
I'm Prejudicial? You are too then after inferring I am some kind of geek, working for the space program etc etc Just because I asked a technical question
I have no idea what raising the engine will do as I've not done it, though its safe to assume raising the centre of gravity can have a detrimental effect is it not? Maybe half an inch wont make it roll at the first hint of lateral loading, but I never said it would
And I'm not giving you stick, let alone because your not doing it your own way, I was asking why you are doing it that way, as it seems a little extreme to me. Fair play for doing it your own way though, hence the "you crack on " at the end of my previous post.
I am a hypocrite though, seeing as I said I wouldn't reply again
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It was Evey's old ZS, he rolled it a few times, just him in the car. He was lucky, no one else involved, he came out with just a few bruises!
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I had a brainwave this morning
I dont know if you're bothered about the bumper covering the corners of the lights, but could you chop the top off a mk4 bumper and graft it onto the top of the ZS one? Just a thought
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I may at some point do that, however I may put MK5 bump strips on the side of my mk4....we will wait and see
Thank you though
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Well, alot of works gone in
After an All nighter It made it to RSTuning in Leeds for a go on the rollers
It made a very respectable 105.4bhp which for the mods done and management is good IMO
Still much work to go till FITP though
After an All nighter It made it to RSTuning in Leeds for a go on the rollers
It made a very respectable 105.4bhp which for the mods done and management is good IMO
Still much work to go till FITP though
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With the plans you got, it should be looking good for FiTP!
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Well, its been taken off the road again for further work, its far from fitp ready since the rolling road meet.
Some more cosmetic touches both inside and outside, adjusting and cleaning The Leda coilovers, fitted polybushes to the rear beam, getting the lights all properly working
few pics
Some more cosmetic touches both inside and outside, adjusting and cleaning The Leda coilovers, fitted polybushes to the rear beam, getting the lights all properly working
few pics
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thats LOW! still liking your car mate, have you seen that escort with the ESCORT badge made out of fridge magnets? would look good on yours!
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lil update, few teething problems in the wiring, e.g headlights from off a police car it seems (flashing headlights) and fuel gauage wired wrong way round, so its coming to B-Tech Racing HQ for a wiring session
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headlights sorted, rear arch's cut back on inside to stop wheels rubbing on arch, alternator fixed, re-secured the O/S skirt, re painted front bumper and more stickers
pics to follow
pics to follow
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grinding about a 15mm lip on the inside edge to give clearance for the wheels
This is the piece of wiring that was stoping the headlights from working, the whole wiring loom came from a zs with an aftermarket alarm on it, so we traced to problem back to this, chopped it out an rejoined the original wiring loom
the nut on the alternator snapped off, so i welded some tread on and and made a new one
and i bring you project NETTO
This is the piece of wiring that was stoping the headlights from working, the whole wiring loom came from a zs with an aftermarket alarm on it, so we traced to problem back to this, chopped it out an rejoined the original wiring loom
the nut on the alternator snapped off, so i welded some tread on and and made a new one
and i bring you project NETTO
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hi the car is very nice how easy is it to put the zetec s body kit on and are u thinking of having a 1.7 puma racing engine in let me know i liek the project
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Body kit bolts straight on, We had a few issues with this one though as it was damaged so a little modding here and there was needed!
He will be sticking with the 1.6 Zetec for now! Although things may change in the future, but i very much doubt it will ever have a FRP engine!
Theres still a few things that need sorting and tidying before FiTP but it will be there on the ZSOC stand, so keep your eyes peeled for it!
He will be sticking with the 1.6 Zetec for now! Although things may change in the future, but i very much doubt it will ever have a FRP engine!
Theres still a few things that need sorting and tidying before FiTP but it will be there on the ZSOC stand, so keep your eyes peeled for it!