General Car Related Discussion. To discuss anything that is related to cars and automotive technology that doesnt naturally fit into another forum catagory.

52 grand yb lol

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 25-11-2010, 11:34 AM
  #1  
ajamesc
cossie fan (unluckerly)
Thread Starter
 
ajamesc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: hampshire
Posts: 9,791
Received 435 Likes on 393 Posts
Default 52 grand yb lol

this is one costly yb! but then it is a julian godrey one http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/COSWORTH-YB-DI...item3f051a0f65
Old 25-11-2010, 11:43 AM
  #2  
Joshy
Dreamer
 
Joshy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Dorking, Surrey
Posts: 1,613
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

that looks stunning
Old 25-11-2010, 12:21 PM
  #3  
Psycho Warren
Carbon Crazy
iTrader: (5)
 
Psycho Warren's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Stoke on Trent
Posts: 20,725
Received 128 Likes on 95 Posts
Default

not good value for 99.9% of the memebers on pf though not many on here are hard core rallycross drivers!!
Old 25-11-2010, 02:28 PM
  #4  
ajamesc
cossie fan (unluckerly)
Thread Starter
 
ajamesc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: hampshire
Posts: 9,791
Received 435 Likes on 393 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by warrenpenalver
not good value for 99.9% of the memebers on pf though not many on here are hard core rallycross drivers!!
Yep your right lol id rather buy a c63 amg but then then i bet its f**king quick straped in a car
Old 25-11-2010, 02:53 PM
  #5  
andy130
PassionFord Post Whore!!
iTrader: (2)
 
andy130's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: ireland
Posts: 5,511
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
Default

if could get the money together id have it, his work is 2nd to none
Old 25-11-2010, 03:43 PM
  #6  
andy escos
PassionFord Post Whore!!
iTrader: (1)
 
andy escos's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Sunny Devon
Posts: 6,302
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

thats bloody expensive
Old 25-11-2010, 03:55 PM
  #7  
Mike Rainbird
Caraholic
iTrader: (3)
 
Mike Rainbird's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Norwich
Posts: 26,403
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

You could build an engine to that spec a lot cheaper, I'd say £30k would do it if you knew the right people .

It has a trick inlet (about £3k) and the ECU is also well into four figures, so it has some juicy bits on .
Old 25-11-2010, 04:34 PM
  #8  
ajamesc
cossie fan (unluckerly)
Thread Starter
 
ajamesc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: hampshire
Posts: 9,791
Received 435 Likes on 393 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
You could build an engine to that spec a lot cheaper, I'd say £30k would do it if you knew the right people .

It has a trick inlet (about £3k) and the ECU is also well into four figures, so it has some juicy bits on .
i think theres more to it than meets the eye is his billet sump not also a strengthening griddle to suport the block and aid against twisting that on its own would cost a fair bit to cnc and they do that stuff in house
Old 25-11-2010, 04:55 PM
  #9  
Mike Rainbird
Caraholic
iTrader: (3)
 
Mike Rainbird's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Norwich
Posts: 26,403
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by ajamesc
i think theres more to it than meets the eye is his billet sump not also a strengthening griddle to suport the block and aid against twisting that on its own would cost a fair bit to cnc and they do that stuff in house
I've allowed for that in my figure.... . Although my figure is for the Pace Cosworth dry-sump kit.....
Old 25-11-2010, 05:00 PM
  #10  
dug112y
passionford pro
iTrader: (1)
 
dug112y's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Lanarkshire,Scotland
Posts: 1,616
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
You could build an engine to that spec a lot cheaper, I'd say £30k would do it if you knew the right people .

It has a trick inlet (about £3k) and the ECU is also well into four figures, so it has some juicy bits on .
build it for 30k then and sell it for 50k....sounds like a good bussiness to me.

rainbird engines... european,norwegian and british rallycross champ next year is it??

can we see a breakdown of bits and charges...would be interesting?

Last edited by dug112y; 25-11-2010 at 05:02 PM.
Old 25-11-2010, 05:05 PM
  #11  
JonnyBravo
10K+ Poster!!
 
JonnyBravo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Huntingdon
Posts: 11,058
Received 7 Likes on 7 Posts
Default

I heard the sump pan alone was 3k

If Mike can build it for 30k Danny can probably build it for 15k !

Joke btw
Old 25-11-2010, 05:08 PM
  #12  
JonnyBravo
10K+ Poster!!
 
JonnyBravo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Huntingdon
Posts: 11,058
Received 7 Likes on 7 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
I've allowed for that in my figure.... . Although my figure is for the Pace Cosworth dry-sump kit.....
Pace What £750 dry sump kit.

Dream on Mike that pump alone is probably more than a complete Pace kit, even with the sexual favours you offer Harvey you wouldn't get one that cheap

Last edited by JonnyBravo; 25-11-2010 at 06:00 PM.
Old 25-11-2010, 05:16 PM
  #13  
bigryrs
RSHoleinator
iTrader: (10)
 
bigryrs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Scotland
Posts: 4,840
Received 37 Likes on 29 Posts
Default

Wow lot of dough for an engine! must be minted to buy something like that for your toy
Old 25-11-2010, 05:17 PM
  #14  
OldDan
PassionFord Post Whore!!
 
OldDan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Manchester.
Posts: 4,631
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Lets see this breakdown!
Old 25-11-2010, 05:23 PM
  #15  
pee vee
PassionFord Post Whore!!
 
pee vee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Wiltshire, Bath, chippenham area!
Posts: 7,428
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
Default

Wet linered block?
does it use the alloy block?
Old 25-11-2010, 05:30 PM
  #16  
caprizetec170
Too many posts.. I need a life!!
 
caprizetec170's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: ireland
Posts: 776
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

never mind the price anyone c the torque 52k for an engine end another 52 for running gear to cope
Old 25-11-2010, 05:50 PM
  #17  
Jay,
Sponsor



iTrader: (4)
 
Jay,'s Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: south east
Posts: 25,222
Received 407 Likes on 329 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by ajamesc
i think theres more to it than meets the eye is his billet sump not also a strengthening griddle to suport the block and aid against twisting that on its own would cost a fair bit to cnc and they do that stuff in house
there ios a john cross who owned autocross and now xsport racing did Dutch and European rally cross for over ten years and used mountune and blue sprint and they were around 30k but they never lasted a race , then he moves to Julian and paid over 40k for his engine and it held together and proved that good he won many heats and titles with his engines and when a car did a 0-60 in 1.9 secs only because first gear wasnt long enough to get there quicker id say in this day and age 52k is a good deal tbh
Old 25-11-2010, 05:56 PM
  #18  
Pete frst
I've found that life I needed.. It's HERE!!
 
Pete frst's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: sussex
Posts: 1,445
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

just keep doing the lottery.......
Old 25-11-2010, 06:02 PM
  #19  
Prodigy4B
Wahay!! I've lost my Virginity!!
 
Prodigy4B's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: UK
Posts: 53
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

You could buy the same for less ect ect, but this is a quality race proven engine not some cobblers a blind camel has built from a spec sheet.
Old 25-11-2010, 06:17 PM
  #20  
steveboyslim
PassionFord Regular
 
steveboyslim's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 456
Likes: 0
Received 12 Likes on 10 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
You could build an engine to that spec a lot cheaper, I'd say £30k would do it if you knew the right people .

It has a trick inlet (about £3k) and the ECU is also well into four figures, so it has some juicy bits on .
You can get to £42k in parts quite easily.
The Tibuc is closer to £5k.
Have people seen how much abuse those engines are put through?
The engine in Citoen with factory money behind it costs more.
As an example, a 2.0 Ford BDG/X on mechanical injection cost £28k-£32k.

Steve
Old 25-11-2010, 06:18 PM
  #21  
ajamesc
cossie fan (unluckerly)
Thread Starter
 
ajamesc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: hampshire
Posts: 9,791
Received 435 Likes on 393 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by JonnyBravo
Pace What £750 dry sump kit.

Dream on Mike that pump alone is probably more than a complete Pace kit, even with the sexual favours you offer Harvey you wouldn't get one that cheap
yeah but its not just a dry sump kit i think its also a block strengthening aid! http://www.racetuners.com/index.php?...y-cross-engine
Old 25-11-2010, 06:24 PM
  #22  
JonnyBravo
10K+ Poster!!
 
JonnyBravo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Huntingdon
Posts: 11,058
Received 7 Likes on 7 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by ajamesc
yeah but its not just a dry sump kit i think its also a block strengthening aid! http://www.racetuners.com/index.php?...y-cross-engine
As I said above, I heard its worth 3k and thats why

Some serious parts in there, fook having to rebuild that when it pokes a rod through the block
Old 25-11-2010, 06:25 PM
  #23  
JonnyBravo
10K+ Poster!!
 
JonnyBravo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Huntingdon
Posts: 11,058
Received 7 Likes on 7 Posts
Default

Makes this car look CHEAP !

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2205640.htm
Old 25-11-2010, 06:29 PM
  #24  
Mark Shead
PassionFord Post Whore!!
 
Mark Shead's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Marlow Bucks
Posts: 5,472
Received 223 Likes on 193 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by JonnyBravo
I heard the sump pan alone was 3k

If Mike can build it for 30k Danny can probably build it for 15k !

Joke btw
By the time you add all the parts for the samp its closer to 8K.

Mark
Old 25-11-2010, 06:31 PM
  #25  
JonnyBravo
10K+ Poster!!
 
JonnyBravo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Huntingdon
Posts: 11,058
Received 7 Likes on 7 Posts
Default

Eek !

Easily a 30k engine then
Old 25-11-2010, 06:32 PM
  #26  
Danny @ Enhanced Performance
BANNED
BANNED
iTrader: (3)
 
Danny @ Enhanced Performance's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 2,380
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

As mike said circa £30k for that all in,my own engine cost the following
Management £2.5k
Inlet plenum with injectors and t/b £1.5k
cgi Nikasil linered block new £4.5k with machining
4 stage scavenge Dry sump kit £2k
grp a lightwieght crank £1k
Sienz wrc spec rods + bolts £700
Cosworth racing pistons £650
Brand new cast head bare £1200
All head components inc 1mm oversize valves etc + machining porting etc £1800
Cams + solid lifters and springs £1000
Custom t04 z turbo £1200
Tubular ex manifold £1000
Rs 200 evo w/g £600
Then you have all the gaskets pulleys,flywheel,clutch and of course build time and engine dyno on top of that!!!!
I know by the time mine was built and fitted in the engine bay it owed me £22k!!
The engine above has a girdle dry sump kit witch julian charges £4k for and sq6 is around £3.5k by the time it has a loom made for it iirc also the inlet is around £3k..
So yes i cant see why it could cost more than £30k...


cheers danny
Old 25-11-2010, 07:14 PM
  #27  
dug112y
passionford pro
iTrader: (1)
 
dug112y's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Lanarkshire,Scotland
Posts: 1,616
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by JonnyBravo
very cheap...would prob be double that to build it.
i heard dorans fiestas are 200k all in built. some stupid amount of hours on the shell prep before you buy engines diffs boxes suspension etc

Last edited by dug112y; 26-11-2010 at 11:23 AM.
Old 25-11-2010, 07:32 PM
  #28  
v man
Zee Germans are coming
 
v man's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: dunstable beds
Posts: 4,585
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

920 nm tourque

that must be a giggle to the shops in the morning
Old 26-11-2010, 08:32 AM
  #29  
Mike Rainbird
Caraholic
iTrader: (3)
 
Mike Rainbird's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Norwich
Posts: 26,403
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Pectel SQ6 management £3.5k
Loom £700
Swedish roller barrel inlet plenum £3k
Nikasil wet linered 4x4 block with all machining £2k and oil jets etc
Ten stud kit £350
JG dry sump kit with girdle £4k
Arrow crank £1.5k
Sienz WRC rods £700
CP pistons £650
New head £1.5k
Machining, porting, guides, valves and WRC headgasket £1.8k
Cams, solid lifters and springs £1k
Custom Maram shafted turbo £2k
Primary designs inconnel manifold £2.5k
RS200 Evo wastegate £600
Plating, bearings etc £500
Mapping and fuel £1k
Labour to build engine £1.5k


Probably missed a few things but not £20k worth ?

Last edited by Mike Rainbird; 26-11-2010 at 08:34 AM.
Old 26-11-2010, 09:18 AM
  #30  
XRT_si
PassionFord Post Whore!!
iTrader: (2)
 
XRT_si's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: London
Posts: 6,861
Received 54 Likes on 51 Posts
Default

What's so good about the RS200 Evo wastegate compared to the equivalent aftermarket jobbie?

And Danny, are you saying you can get that inlet for £1500 or is that you suggesting using another inlet that can make the SAME figures as that engine?
Old 26-11-2010, 09:35 AM
  #31  
RANJ
BANNED
BANNED
 
RANJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: FuKnOsE
Posts: 10,134
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

yup agree with mike, circi 30k will build this, im sure mike/me agree and a few others as we have pretty much been there
Old 26-11-2010, 09:58 AM
  #32  
JamesR1
Anybody for a brew?
 
JamesR1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Bronte Country
Posts: 338
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

There will be a premium cos the fact its julian godfrey engine. and people will pay more if there is some thing that he has put his name too.
Old 26-11-2010, 10:04 AM
  #33  
Mike Rainbird
Caraholic
iTrader: (3)
 
Mike Rainbird's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Norwich
Posts: 26,403
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by XRT_si
What's so good about the RS200 Evo wastegate compared to the equivalent aftermarket jobbie?

And Danny, are you saying you can get that inlet for £1500 or is that you suggesting using another inlet that can make the SAME figures as that engine?
No, his prices are for HIS own engine as a comparison . Can't you read?
Old 26-11-2010, 10:05 AM
  #34  
Mike Rainbird
Caraholic
iTrader: (3)
 
Mike Rainbird's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Norwich
Posts: 26,403
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by JamesR1
There will be a premium cos the fact its julian godfrey engine. and people will pay more if there is some thing that he has put his name too.
£20k? I'm changing my name by deed-poll !
Old 26-11-2010, 10:18 AM
  #35  
Roosie
500bhp Cosworth in making
iTrader: (8)
 
Roosie's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Brandon
Posts: 9,278
Received 12 Likes on 9 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
£20k? I'm changing my name by deed-poll !
Paul Hills
Old 26-11-2010, 10:24 AM
  #36  
steveboyslim
PassionFord Regular
 
steveboyslim's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 456
Likes: 0
Received 12 Likes on 10 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Pectel SQ6 management £3.5k
Loom £700
Swedish roller barrel inlet plenum £3k
Nikasil wet linered 4x4 block with all machining £2k and oil jets etc
Ten stud kit £350
JG dry sump kit with girdle £4k
Arrow crank £1.5k
Sienz WRC rods £700
CP pistons £650
New head £1.5k
Machining, porting, guides, valves and WRC headgasket £1.8k
Cams, solid lifters and springs £1k
Custom Maram shafted turbo £2k
Primary designs inconnel manifold £2.5k
RS200 Evo wastegate £600
Plating, bearings etc £500
Mapping and fuel £1k
Labour to build engine £1.5k


Probably missed a few things but not £20k worth ?
Mike,

You are still along way off on your prices, check with Cosworth on new head price, check with Tibuc for the price of their rallycross inlet with all the pipe work and ALS valves.
Your do well to get nimonic exhaust valves, stainless inlet valves, Kauffmann or Schmitthelm springs and retainers for £1k.
The billet dry sump and Auto verdi oil pump also cost alot more.

Steve
Old 26-11-2010, 10:33 AM
  #37  
Mike Rainbird
Caraholic
iTrader: (3)
 
Mike Rainbird's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Norwich
Posts: 26,403
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by steveboyslim
Mike,

You are still along way off on your prices, check with Cosworth on new head price, check with Tibuc for the price of their rallycross inlet with all the pipe work and ALS valves.
Your do well to get nimonic exhaust valves, stainless inlet valves, Kauffmann or Schmitthelm springs and retainers for £1k.
The billet dry sump and Auto verdi oil pump also cost alot more.

Steve
So I'm £23.78k out for those parts ?
Old 26-11-2010, 10:37 AM
  #38  
DaveEscos
BANNED
BANNED
 
DaveEscos's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Mongsville, wiping Jimbo.'s spastic arse.
Posts: 23,032
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
So I'm £23.78k out for those parts ?

You added all your (WAY OUT) prices up!

you SAD MONG!
Old 26-11-2010, 10:39 AM
  #39  
Mike Rainbird
Caraholic
iTrader: (3)
 
Mike Rainbird's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Norwich
Posts: 26,403
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by DaveEscos
You added all your (WAY OUT) prices up!

you SAD MONG!
So did you to know that I did .
Old 26-11-2010, 10:47 AM
  #40  
DaveEscos
BANNED
BANNED
 
DaveEscos's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Mongsville, wiping Jimbo.'s spastic arse.
Posts: 23,032
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
So did you to know that I did .
No, not at all. I just saw your quite specific figure and assumed you added it up. Which you DID!

Fuckwit! Get a life!


Quick Reply: 52 grand yb lol



All times are GMT. The time now is 03:53 AM.