ivorbigun

blacktop zetec reversed water pump market reserch

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Market research

Hi all just to give me an idea of numbers I've decided to do a little research so please help if you can.

If you would be interested in a reversed ( I.E. clockwise running direction ) blacktop zetec water pump complete or an impeller please use the poll above this post.
the impeller will be about £20 and the water pump around £60, this is not a definite price!

I will be posting this on every forum that I can so please only reply once!!!

many thanks and a happy new year to everyone.

Ivan

cossie4i+

iTrader: (15)

You can buy them off the shelf anyway, I have one.


Steve

ivorbigun

Where???
do they fit the black top zetec and how much??


happy new year
Ivan

Johnny Knoxville

I thought you could change the pulley set up that changes the belt direction?

ivorbigun

yes but that runs the pump clockwise I.E. backwards.
Some people have done this without any probs.
I'll post some pics when I workout how!

cossie4i+

iTrader: (15)

I will find the pump and give you the numbers off it.


Steve

james kiely

iTrader: (5)

whats the reason/application for using a reversed pump ?

clairendave

for when your not running ac or ps iirc James. allows you to run the same config as an rs turbo when doing an engine swap.

ivorbigun

to do away with the long belt and idler pulley's and to simplify belt route. usually when you use a zetec for rear wheel drive.
give it a google, other search engines are available

ivorbigun

cheers would be very interested as I've searched every where and only found one that's available from the US (expensive) and one in UK that's over £80 just for the impeller!!!

cheers
Ivan

studabear

So on my zetec turbo using a blacktop engine and water pump, is my pump pumping in the correct direction with a belt set up like in my very quickly created picture?

frsjon

id say yes i take it that idler pulley is a afteemarket adition ?
the main reason is normally alternator location.. on both 2.0 silvertops and blacktops from the factory there rear mounted.. on a silvertop its a easy swap as the 1.6/1.8 in the fiesta's/escorts has from mounted alternators so the 1.6/1.8 water pump was revised to spin the other way.. on blacktops there isnt this option. rear mounted alternators are a pain to use on say a fiesta/escort due to room

studabear

yeah its one of Gary's brackets with a Merc pulley iirc.

crazycage

Yes stu your set up is right. All the reverse pump does is do away with the top pulley so you can run the belt over the water pump and down to the alternator

ivorbigun

found it yet ?????

Fezman1

iTrader: (1)

You can get a hard anodized reverse impeller for £58. for blacktop zetec.

XRT_si

iTrader: (2)

Nice idea, I know a batch of these got made up some years ago. Making up the extra idler pulley seems to work for most people, but it is ugly. I had my Black Top block machined to fit a Silver Top water pump, which wasn't too hard.

ivorbigun

Where??????

XRT_si

iTrader: (2)

Quicksilver Race Engines in America and IKE Engineering here in the UK both sold reversed water pump impellers for the Black Top at one time, though not sure if they are anymore. I assume due to lack of demand.

ivorbigun

Ike are £88 +p&p a lot of money just for the impeller.

XRT_si

iTrader: (2)

£20 for the impeller is a good price, I would have gone for one on my old engine. Most people seem happy to just fit the idler now though as it can be done for pennies.

Fezman1

iTrader: (1)

Sorry for the delay.

http://shop.autospeed.co.uk/index.ph...product_id=239

They have started using blacktop zetec in stockcars, as they run no alternator the reverse impeller is needed. If you look you will see a picture of the imppeller, they do the extra idler setup also. Hope this helps.