andy130

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which of the above are better? its for a 16" rim,
cheers andrew

kimronnoco

Toyo's for me mate...............
Used on 17 and 18 inch, great budget tyre...
Though getting rare now.

Mark Shead

For me its hard to find a worse tyre than a toyo.

Mark

kimronnoco

And your choice is ?

jon-

The T1R gets lot of comments about soft sidewalls, so I'm not sure I'd want to use it on a 16" rim. The Yokohama S Drive seems to get good reviews too, but I can't help but wonder if it's too dry optimised for the UK (like all Yoko tyres seem to be)

zippyobrien

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i had toyos on 16s on my zetec s, 195/45/16 t1rs

and they were awfull, fronts went in 3000 miles , rears in 7k, i do drive it hard but thats ridiculouse.

they felt heavy if that makes sence, like rolling resistance, and untill i scrubbed em down to half tread you could physically feel the move on the tread.

tore a side wall aswell.

now running continental sports and have more grip in the wet than the toyos did in the dry.

tabetha

I've used the T1R, plus maybe 5-7 other makes.
There are better tyres for the money, such as Vredestein Sportrac 3, and Uniroyal rainsport 2's.
tabetha

BRAMMER

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Had Rainsports on my old rs turbo and they performed very well - had T1r's on the cossie and they where awesome in all weathers at 350bhp

JamesR1

i'll second that tabetha Vredestei sportracs are very good for wet/winter weather driving. My ST has p-zero neros on and there ok but not the best in the crap weather. its either them or the pradas and they really arnt winter tyres.

Out of the two you have listed i'd go for the yokohamas never been a great fan of toyo poxies

AJC

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i've just ordered T1R's in 215/35 18 for my saff, tried a few places and the UK is out of stock of them

i've had parada's, and i think they're grippy in the dry, but SHIT in the wet, plus of the ones i'vehad, they've egged and deformed, and it drove like shit

so i did this.......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MESbU5Th1n8

AJC

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the s drives aren't cheap

http://ssl.delti.com/cgi-bin/rshop.p...e=15&weiter=30

JamesR1

Yeah the pradas really are summer tires.
Yours egged and deformed? did you have the correct speed rating?

Jesus when did my tyres ramp there prices up. Got some s drives in at work for a customer and only paid £82 each for a 205/40/17 there £135 on there. Theving fuckers

TimC

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Iv got 195 45 16 S Drives on my 300+hp Corsa LET and im more then happy with them for the price they are available.

tyretraders.com seems to do them for a very good price

rallycross

They are about as bad as each other, ok if you want a cheap tyre but poor performance.


We had to use C drives for a year in our race series and they were not very good, and rubbish in the wet. Toyo Proxy's are cheap for a reason - they are just a budget tyre, rubbish in the wet and have horrible soft sidewalls which is not a good idea if you have a decent amount of power.