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Old Dec 23, 2005 | 05:24 PM
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have an Escort RS Turbo Cabriolet, Back in aug the engine blew up so i've spent the las few months getting new engine turbo etc. I put it all back together but it wouldn't start so I took it to a repuatble performance garage to get it set up and mot'd etc. I got it back with full MOT, and running but ... it still didnt start well from cold, the garage said i should press the flap down on the metering head slightly and sure enough this did make it start.
They said i should try changing the Cold Start Valve and the Thermo time switch which i have done made no difference. I fiddled with the metering head by pushing flap all the way down and next time i started it it was running on 3 cylinders ( I have now changed the metering head aswell but it doesn't start at all now. i also found out that the plugs on the back of the inlet manifold were on the wrong way round the Thermo Time switch and the Coolant temp sensor were the wrong way round according to the haynes manual (confused me because its supposed to be yellow and brown but ive got dark brown and light brown!)


Now doesnt start at all, can smell petrol, have checked still get spark? Mystery??? I have also changed over the fuel presure thing that has the screw underneath to alter the fueling from my old one, still no joy?
can anyone please help!!?????????????????
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Old Dec 23, 2005 | 05:41 PM
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Are the plugs wet from all the cranking ?
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Old Dec 23, 2005 | 06:49 PM
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They were but i took them out and gave them a wipe every now and again after cranking for a while.
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Old Dec 23, 2005 | 10:03 PM
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do you have crank sensor fitted??????
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Old Dec 23, 2005 | 10:08 PM
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where is this located?
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Old Dec 24, 2005 | 08:31 AM
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its located at front of block gearbox end if it is fitted
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Old Dec 24, 2005 | 08:46 AM
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No its not fitted
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Old Dec 24, 2005 | 08:48 AM
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dont know then sorry but you could check all the sensors and fuel distributor
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Old Dec 24, 2005 | 09:10 PM
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I've switched it back to the original metering head, it turns over and it kicks sometimes if i press down on the flap slightly but does not run?

Also dont know if this is important the pipe from the inlet manifold to the oil breather filter wsa changed to a silicone one?
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Old Dec 24, 2005 | 09:19 PM
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DOSE IT STILL TURN OVER OK


Ie CRANKING


DONT M/H NEED TO BE SET UP I HAD LOADS OF PROBS WITH MINE
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Old Dec 24, 2005 | 09:21 PM
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has it got the funny looking valve in it like the one from the servo?
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Old Dec 24, 2005 | 09:23 PM
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if you mean the little black thing, No it hasn't??

What is this for??

Its just got a straight bit of silicon going to the filter thing?
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Old Dec 25, 2005 | 09:41 AM
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did you change this or was it like it?
because this can cause starting problems and has to be on the right way
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Old Dec 25, 2005 | 03:05 PM
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I changed this cus it was roken during the change??
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Old Dec 25, 2005 | 04:08 PM
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was it running before? if not try getting new one only pennies to buy might not cure it but worth a try
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Old Dec 26, 2005 | 05:08 PM
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i bet uve got the ignition leads on the plugs the wrong way so your not firing the correct cylinder at the right time!!!

ive got a diagram for u to follow to make sure your leads are correct from the dizzy!

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Old Dec 26, 2005 | 05:09 PM
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here you go !!!!!!!!!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...IRINGORDER.bmp
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Old Dec 29, 2005 | 06:53 AM
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Plugs on correctly.

I have checked injectors and they are squirting.


I have had a look at spark plugs, not too sure bout the spark on them sometime white sometimes blue? They are only a few weeks old garage put them on? HT Leads?? Coil??? Is there any way i can check?
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Old Dec 31, 2005 | 11:16 AM
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I take the oil filler cap off and i can smell petrol? is this normal or is there somthing wrong with the head?
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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 06:34 AM
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I had a similar problem with my cabriolet. It turned out that the head was fooked all i needed was a new head and all run sweet. I know it may be a long shot but worht a try.
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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 09:05 PM
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just re read the post and i reckon uve still got the multi plugs on the back of the plenum wrong!
there should be
a yellow
a beige
a black aux air device
blue cold start injector
and a green to knock sensor?
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Old Jan 6, 2006 | 11:03 PM
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just to let you know i had this on my rst after a new engine...where it had been stood for a while the injectors shitted up and did the same as your describing now..replaced them and it was fine!!
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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 03:06 PM
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I have tken it back to the garage to have a look at at it has been stripped down. One of the camshaft lobes was badly worn (although when i bought the engine the Kent Cam was suposed to be new). They have also replaced a couple of the rings as well as putting a group A headgasket on and an upragetd fuel pump.

This seems to have done the trick just got to pay for it now!!!
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