Technical help Q & A Got A technical problem with you car? Keep it in here where the techies hang out and we will try to solve it for you!!

cvh won't start. *it ran.. ish*

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 02-06-2010, 04:26 PM
  #1  
Mk1-stu
Patronus
Thread Starter
 
Mk1-stu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Nr Southend !!
Posts: 3,442
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default cvh won't start. *it ran.. ish*

i've done everything i can think of.

Timing is 100% spot on, got spark, got fuel cos it stinks she just won't start. Checked all the earths and even used a jump lead to improvise an earth in random places across the engine.
The only thing i can't check is the compression, although the head has only been bolted down 48 hours so it should be alright. Changed the dizzy today thinking it might have been the condenser unit but still nowt. Confused and gettin quite annoyed with it to be honest.

Wanted to take the heap to pf night tonight, but i guess i'll be hovering over the engine bay till it gets dark again tonight looking for whatever is causing the problem !

Also.. is the Mfi cam different to a Carb cam ? i ask because the replacement cam i got is from an MFI head and wondered if that'd make any difference.

Engine is a 1.6 Carb cvh.

Last edited by Mk1-stu; 03-06-2010 at 11:07 AM.
Old 02-06-2010, 07:32 PM
  #2  
tabetha
20K+ Super Poster.
 
tabetha's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: uk
Posts: 24,596
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

I'm by no means sure but think on these the cam/dizzy can go in 180 degrees out, ie the slot is not offset, that could be the problem.
tabetha
Old 02-06-2010, 08:51 PM
  #3  
chris m1
Too many posts.. I need a life!!
 
chris m1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: northants
Posts: 626
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Tab's may be right, if all its doin is turning over then it can only be the timming.. take a lok at the dizzy. there should be a indent which lines up with the head to set the timming.

I pressume the car was running pre cam change?
Old 02-06-2010, 10:11 PM
  #4  
Mk1-stu
Patronus
Thread Starter
 
Mk1-stu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Nr Southend !!
Posts: 3,442
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

i had to change the bottom end as the holes for the sump bolts were all fucked in my old block, i changed the bottom end (for an mfi one) and the cam at the same time whilst the engine was in bits. i drove the car into the drive, it was all put back together with fresh gaskets / seals / oil / filters within 48 hours and now the bloody thing don't work !

Tabby, when i changed the dizzy on it earlier, i set the cam to tdc, then set the rotor arm to #1 inside the cap. The only way the timing can be wrong is if the Haynes book of bullshit lied again - it's set to 1342, which is what haynes says it should be. (section 4 of the orion haynes)
Old 03-06-2010, 11:06 AM
  #5  
Mk1-stu
Patronus
Thread Starter
 
Mk1-stu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Nr Southend !!
Posts: 3,442
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

we just tow started it and my god does it run like a bag of sh.t. Sounds like the timing is miles out, but it isn't, so loosened the dizzy to adjust that end and it got progressively louder, but didn't run better

Gonna let it cool down, then throw the old cam back in to see if the longer duration of the mfi cam really does make a difference. If she runs fine with the old cam back in, i might just phone newmans..

Also, she keeps backfiring and making a rather random squeek'ish noise, sounds like it's coming from the carb ? never heard it before so no idea where to look, or what to wack
Old 03-06-2010, 01:05 PM
  #6  
stevo123
Regular Contributor
 
stevo123's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 220
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

Cams are different profile, but not radacally. I had an MFI cam in my old Mk2 xr2 (was just a spare one had lying round) and did not notice any difference i nthe way it ran or idled. I woul dbe checking your cam timing because the belt may have jumped, then re check ignition timing and get a strobe light on it to be sure. If you wanna find TDC of number one take plug out and pop a plactic drinking straw down the plug hole and turn engine - piston will move straw up and down to indicate tdc of the bottom end.
Old 03-06-2010, 04:11 PM
  #7  
Mk1-stu
Patronus
Thread Starter
 
Mk1-stu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Nr Southend !!
Posts: 3,442
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Already done that with a screwdriver rather than a straw

Gonna go throw the old cam back in it in a mo and see if it makes any difference.
Old 03-06-2010, 04:29 PM
  #8  
studabear
PassionFord Post Whore!!
 
studabear's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: at home
Posts: 8,347
Received 206 Likes on 193 Posts
Default

will the carbed cam have the fuel pump running on it?, will an mfi cam drive the fuel pump
Old 03-06-2010, 05:07 PM
  #9  
Mk1-stu
Patronus
Thread Starter
 
Mk1-stu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Nr Southend !!
Posts: 3,442
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

well i actually drove it under it's own lack of steam, so the fuel pump is obviously being triggered by the mfi cam it just seems completely erm.. fucked, basicly.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
mk3ste
Restorations, Rebuilds & Projects.
19
17-10-2021 10:09 AM
A.t.p
Ford Escort RS Turbo
14
23-10-2015 07:54 PM
nicodinho
Ford Non RS / XR / ST parts for sale.
6
07-10-2015 12:56 PM
dojj
General Car Related Discussion.
2
29-09-2015 10:32 PM
sridgett
General Car Related Discussion.
13
27-09-2015 06:03 PM



Quick Reply: cvh won't start. *it ran.. ish*



All times are GMT. The time now is 04:22 AM.