Technical help Q & A Got A technical problem with you car? Keep it in here where the techies hang out and we will try to solve it for you!!

cvh to zetec conversion advice wanted???!!!!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Mar 8, 2009 | 12:40 PM
  #1  
alun2's Avatar
alun2
Thread Starter
15000
 
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 19
Likes: 0
From: colwyn bay
Default cvh to zetec conversion advice wanted???!!!!

hi,im replacing the cvh with a 2.0 zetec and running it on twin 40s webber.
i dont know what i do with the wiring though,im not the best when it comes to this field!!
what do i need to do or buy to get the engine to have a spark????i have a low budget though!
cheers for any help
Reply
Old Mar 8, 2009 | 12:51 PM
  #2  
pa_sjo's Avatar
pa_sjo
Colossal Pervert
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 3,678
Likes: 1
From: Location: Location:
Default

Just run all the original zetec ecu+loom..
Reply
Old Mar 8, 2009 | 12:54 PM
  #3  
alun2's Avatar
alun2
Thread Starter
15000
 
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 19
Likes: 0
From: colwyn bay
Default

will it not read a fault on the ecu without all the connectors and fuel injection rail connected?
Reply
Old Mar 8, 2009 | 01:05 PM
  #4  
pa_sjo's Avatar
pa_sjo
Colossal Pervert
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 3,678
Likes: 1
From: Location: Location:
Default

The only thing that wouldn't be connected would be the injectors and MAF.. technically the ECU will be running on a base map (due to the MAF being unplugged), but it'd be more than adequate for simple spark control.

Any early 92-93 ECU & loom from any zetec-engineered car would be ideal..
Reply
Old Mar 8, 2009 | 01:07 PM
  #5  
alun2's Avatar
alun2
Thread Starter
15000
 
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 19
Likes: 0
From: colwyn bay
Default

cheers for that,so i just replace the loom complete in the car and do away with the old one?
Reply
Old Mar 8, 2009 | 01:09 PM
  #6  
pa_sjo's Avatar
pa_sjo
Colossal Pervert
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 3,678
Likes: 1
From: Location: Location:
Default

Well no, you're gonna have to make them work together.. The zetec loom won't need much more than power from your original loom.. and the tacho output.. and fuel pump perhaps..
Reply
Old Mar 8, 2009 | 01:10 PM
  #7  
alun2's Avatar
alun2
Thread Starter
15000
 
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 19
Likes: 0
From: colwyn bay
Default

right,ill probably be back on here for advice pretty soon wen i cant get it to run!!
Reply

Trending Topics

Old Mar 8, 2009 | 02:30 PM
  #8  
orion_crazy_carl's Avatar
orion_crazy_carl
orion=mini saff
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 3,505
Likes: 2
From: suffolk Drives:orion mk2 zetec
Default

your better off using mk5 CVH stuff as it runs carb and coil pack,no ECU stuff to mess with
Reply
Old Mar 8, 2009 | 02:38 PM
  #9  
alun2's Avatar
alun2
Thread Starter
15000
 
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 19
Likes: 0
From: colwyn bay
Default

how do i do that then,does it all plug straight onto a zetec engine?still good to use the 40s?
Reply
Old Mar 8, 2009 | 02:44 PM
  #10  
clarke5700's Avatar
clarke5700
YES I KNOW I CANT SPELL
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 5,271
Likes: 0
From: chingford e4
Default

if you get an esc modual from an early fiesta (mk3 1.1 for example as long as its got a coil pack not a dissy) ) this will use the standard crank trigger from the zetec and a vacume line plumed into the inlet for the advance and they are realy easy to wire up
Reply
Old Mar 8, 2009 | 07:36 PM
  #11  
Dan1281's Avatar
Dan1281
I've found that life I needed.. It's HERE!!
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 1,116
Likes: 0
From: wigan
Default

i'm pretty sure you can run the ignition system of a like 89-92 hcs fiesta/escort, they have the vac pipe on the edis
Reply
Old Mar 8, 2009 | 07:40 PM
  #12  
orion_crazy_carl's Avatar
orion_crazy_carl
orion=mini saff
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 3,505
Likes: 2
From: suffolk Drives:orion mk2 zetec
Default

the 1.3 stuff dont rev properly ive been told
Reply
Old Mar 8, 2009 | 08:16 PM
  #13  
alun2's Avatar
alun2
Thread Starter
15000
 
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 19
Likes: 0
From: colwyn bay
Default

would it just be easier to get an 1.8 zetec from the mk5 xr3i and run it on that loom with the twin 40s?
Reply
Old Mar 8, 2009 | 08:17 PM
  #14  
orion_crazy_carl's Avatar
orion_crazy_carl
orion=mini saff
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 3,505
Likes: 2
From: suffolk Drives:orion mk2 zetec
Default

if u can find it!but it is easier just to use the mk5 carb stuff,neater to
Reply
Old Mar 8, 2009 | 08:20 PM
  #15  
alun2's Avatar
alun2
Thread Starter
15000
 
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 19
Likes: 0
From: colwyn bay
Default

how do you mean the mk5 carb stuff?is the zr3i mk5 not on a carb?ive never had one i only ever kept myself to the mfi xr3i?is it just a stamdard mk5 escort 1.8 or is it a smaller engine?
Reply
Old Mar 8, 2009 | 08:28 PM
  #16  
orion_crazy_carl's Avatar
orion_crazy_carl
orion=mini saff
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 3,505
Likes: 2
From: suffolk Drives:orion mk2 zetec
Default

they done a 1.4CVH mk5 escort with a carb,well,single point injection, but it runs a coil pack,the looms really basic and easy to wire in
Reply
Old Mar 8, 2009 | 08:34 PM
  #17  
alun2's Avatar
alun2
Thread Starter
15000
 
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 19
Likes: 0
From: colwyn bay
Default

oh right,so i just dont connect the single point injection....well therell be nowhere to connect it anyway,it wont run badly or nothing without all plugs connected then?cheers for all your help!!
Reply
Old Mar 8, 2009 | 09:19 PM
  #18  
orion_crazy_carl's Avatar
orion_crazy_carl
orion=mini saff
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 3,505
Likes: 2
From: suffolk Drives:orion mk2 zetec
Default

the banger boys use it and they run and rev sweet,hence why i know the 1.3 stuff dont rev right!
Reply
Old Mar 8, 2009 | 09:27 PM
  #19  
clarke5700's Avatar
clarke5700
YES I KNOW I CANT SPELL
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 5,271
Likes: 0
From: chingford e4
Default

Originally Posted by Dan1281
i'm pretty sure you can run the ignition system of a like 89-92 hcs fiesta/escort, they have the vac pipe on the edis
its not edis it esc to compleatly different systems
Reply
Old Mar 8, 2009 | 09:28 PM
  #20  
pa_sjo's Avatar
pa_sjo
Colossal Pervert
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 3,678
Likes: 1
From: Location: Location:
Default

It's ESC-I, the predecessor to ESC-II on the escort rs turbo!
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
moesin2005
Ford Escort RS Turbo
9
Jan 23, 2022 06:28 PM
jaysoc1
Technical help Q & A
15
Aug 20, 2015 08:18 PM
Rickyrustyfox
General Car Related Discussion.
0
Aug 13, 2015 01:11 PM
knight19770
Technical help Q & A
3
Aug 4, 2015 12:36 PM
adriansaleem
Cars & Parts Wanted.
0
Aug 3, 2015 11:21 AM




All times are GMT. The time now is 07:26 AM.