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Old 04-03-2009 | 11:07 PM
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hello guys still have a problem with the car i only have 1 yellow relay but if u bridge the 1 that is working to the 1 that is not working the car will spark n the fuel pump will work but if u unbridge it is doesnt work y is this happening many thanks chris
Old 05-03-2009 | 07:52 PM
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i already put this on your other post


the black wire you are using is the activating supply from the ignition switch to the fuel injection relay m11 at pin 86. the blue/black wire is the supply from the fuel injection relay at pin 87(which also supplies all the injectors) to the fuel pump relay at pin 86.

what is happening is you are using the black wire to directly supply the injectors and the fuel pump relay.
this tells me that the fuel pump relay m10 is working correctly but the fuel injection relay m11 is not.

we know it has an activating supply because of you results by bridging,

so its either the relay itself, no earth for the relay, or no main supply

try the following,
(1) earth pin 85 on the fuel injection relay to any bare metal . if the relay is good the you should all the bits and pieces click in. if it doesnt than either the relay is toast or the earth route could be broken. this relay earths through the ecu at pin 10 so you could check for an earth at that point.
(2) if the relay clicks in and you still have no power to the injectors and fuel pump then check for a voltage at pin 30(red&white wire) on the fuel injection relay m11,,,, if no power there then check fuse 41 for power or blown.

hope that aint to complicated, see how you get on
Old 08-03-2009 | 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by velocity
i already put this on your other post


the black wire you are using is the activating supply from the ignition switch to the fuel injection relay m11 at pin 86. the blue/black wire is the supply from the fuel injection relay at pin 87(which also supplies all the injectors) to the fuel pump relay at pin 86.

what is happening is you are using the black wire to directly supply the injectors and the fuel pump relay.
this tells me that the fuel pump relay m10 is working correctly but the fuel injection relay m11 is not.

we know it has an activating supply because of you results by bridging,

so its either the relay itself, no earth for the relay, or no main supply

try the following,
(1) earth pin 85 on the fuel injection relay to any bare metal . if the relay is good the you should all the bits and pieces click in. if it doesnt than either the relay is toast or the earth route could be broken. this relay earths through the ecu at pin 10 so you could check for an earth at that point.
(2) if the relay clicks in and you still have no power to the injectors and fuel pump then check for a voltage at pin 30(red&white wire) on the fuel injection relay m11,,,, if no power there then check fuse 41 for power or blown.

hope that aint to complicated, see how you get on
hello mate fixed the car it was a lose wire on the main plug that goes to the engine and the main loom of the car.put thanks for your time on write this for me.http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/sr...cons/icon7.gif
http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/sr...ons/icon14.gif
many thanks.
chris.
Old 08-03-2009 | 10:40 PM
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no probs,at least its sorted....
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