McGoo 69

On my escort rs project i am going to be running front Focus RS Brembo calipers and Front and Rear Focus RS Discs using rear Focus RS Hubs+Backing Plates

Now rather than using the rear cable operated calipers id like to use Mitsubishi Evo Brembo calipers using a hydraulic handbrake system insted.

Now fitting the brembos to my rear axel wont be the problem is just plumbing it all in

I just want to get my head round how it all work along with the brake servo

Also what parts do i need?

Is there anywhere i can look on the internet to get this info

any help will be much appriciated

Matty

rs combi

if its for road use you need a cable operated hand brake to pass mot

dosnt realy help with your questions tho sorry

McGoo 69

isn't that only if the handbrake doesn't have a ratchet I.e for drift use? As mine will be using the std handbrake but with a master cylinder will this not be acceptable?

NUTS RuS

iTrader: (35)

No sadly, a full hydraulic system should fail an MOT.

A mechnical means is also required if a hydraulic system is in use.

McGoo 69

bugger

does anyone know the reason behind this? seems pointless if you ask me?

dont realy want to have two calipers on one dics.

ill have to look into using the escort rs 2000 internal handbrake on the disc or the similar set up what is used on the evo

but doing that limits my brake disc size

any ideas anyone

NUTS RuS

iTrader: (35)

Reason is to do with hydraulic fluids and what happens when they cool.
It deffo isn't pointless.

What you dont want to be doing anyway is overbraking the back end, which it sounds like that was what you were planning to do.

McGoo 69

no i wasnt planning on over braking the back end... i just thought it would be nice to have 2 matching calipers.. id rather have my p-zeros last than be doing handbrakes...

NUTS RuS

iTrader: (35)

Over braking meaning balance/size/set-up etc, not handbrake turns lol

cosmagedon

iTrader: (1)

It so you have a second means of braking that isnt atached to the hydraulic system. if you lost all your fluid for any reason you would still have a mechanical means of stopping.

McGoo 69

ah right sorry nuts lol, well i was hoping a brake balence would sort this if needs me

what do you think about using a escort rs2000 disc set up with the brembo calipers insted of factory?

the evo rear discs are 300mm and 20mm vented but the rs2000 discs are 270mm and 10mm solid

is there anyway the brembos can still be used with the rs2000 disc and handbrake setup?

just loooking at options if i have to ill just use all focus rs braking id just perfer to have brembo calipers front and rear (ocd :cry)

cosmagedon brake cables can snap also? surly thats just as possible as looking fluid?

i guess im not in the position to argue rules are rule and all...

NUTS RuS

iTrader: (35)

Brembo's on solids is basically a no go

McGoo 69

so the only way to do it will be to use brembo calipers and discs all round?

im going to see how i can get evo discs to work if i can get evo discs with bells it might be easy to change the pcd?

failing that ill go with the easy option for focus rs rears aswell

Remko GT

This doesn't make sense at all. Not that I doubt you but honoustly..... stopping a car with the handbrake..... AFPMSL. They have the same stulpid rule in Holland. By stating it this way, imo, they COUNT on frontbrakes failing as well. Politicians..... pfffff....

muz

I know they wont be proper Brembo calipers, but you could get away with having rs2000 calipers machined flat, powdercoated and then decaled as such.

McGoo 69

yeh i suppose, it would be good if i could get some rear evo discs with bells and change the pcd of the bells?

or get some rs2000 rear discs with bells and change the disc part of it

NUTS RuS

iTrader: (35)

Part of the rule in the UK is relating to the parking brake (used when the vehicle is stationary)

The secondary device is needed to keep the vehicle stationary on an incline when stopped for a while. A hydraulic system will not do this.

The handbrake is not used for stopping the vehicle - but keeping it stationary once stopped

Remko GT

Okay, now it's starting to make a little sense.
Why won't a hydr system do that? Wouldn't that be a matter of plumbing it (maybe some kind of by-pass) to suit your needs?

jammerrs

if the evo calipers are 2 peice could you not get a smaller spacer?

i know you can increase the size between (my dad had to do it on his motorbike and also some cossies do it i beleive!?) so maybe you could do this?

or you can get brembo stickers. not the same but would still look good.

Another idea: a landrover style system. which doesnt use the brakes to stop, then you could still have hydralic front and rear.