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Old Dec 14, 2008 | 01:08 PM
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Unhappy brake warning lights on intermittent

hi all,on my 4x4 saph cossie a while back changed rear springs and had brake pipes disconnected,bled as per manual,and both amber and red warning light came on now and again,took some fluid out and seemed fixed,had front end jacked up doing front prob when of the jacks lights start coming on again intermittantly,re-bled as manual and still no better,today with out abs pump priming itself i took more fluid out so was on max,primed abs and level went to above min,gave time for lights to go out,then when i press and hold brake pedal eventually both lights come on again!when driving it might only do it a couple times in a journey but usually more,but starting to do my head in!!oh sensor in cap does seem to work like a switch as checked it was working unless its intermitant!cant see any visable leaks,half convinced level has gone up but unsure as when did level pump had been primed,any help much appreciated col93saphcos
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Old Dec 14, 2008 | 10:50 PM
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hi,back in from blast,brake warning lights still come on now and again,when driving and they come on if i keep braking they do go out,it always seems to be both warning lights that illuminate,any suggestions really appreciated col93saphcos
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Old Dec 15, 2008 | 12:07 AM
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Please excuse me for being thick but what amber and red lights ??
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Old Dec 15, 2008 | 06:15 AM
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The amber and red lights reffered to are the std warning lights for the abs braking system fitted to sapph cossies etc.
Red comes on meaning either handbrake on/low hydraulic pressure or low brake fluid level.
The amber light in the centre above the other warning lights, indicates either partial or fully disabled abs, you will still have normal braking but need more effort and of course no abs.

Where are you keeping your fluid level, as I know on mine I have to keep it around 1" ABOVE the max mark otherwise it flashes on corners low fluid level, but never abs, you may just have a grotty connection, I would start by looking at the wheel sensors RINGS to make sure one is not chipped full of rust etc as this will show as a fault.
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Old Dec 15, 2008 | 06:42 AM
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i had it on max after bleeding,so would be above max before being pressurized,i have been taking fluid out thinking it was maybe to much fluid,is your level about an inch above max after it being pressurized?if so im maybe low on fluid,but got lights coming on occasionally when cornering and accelarating,thanks alot col93saphcos
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Old Dec 15, 2008 | 02:26 PM
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The amber and red lights reffered to are the std warning lights for the abs braking system fitted to sapph cossies etc.
Red comes on meaning either handbrake on/low hydraulic pressure or low brake fluid level.
The amber light in the centre above the other warning lights, indicates either partial or fully disabled abs, you will still have normal braking but need more effort and of course no abs.

Where are you keeping your fluid level, as I know on mine I have to keep it around 1" ABOVE the max mark otherwise it flashes on corners low fluid level, but never abs, you may just have a grotty connection, I would start by looking at the wheel sensors RINGS to make sure one is not chipped full of rust etc as this will show as a fault.
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Oh my god how thick am i,i bloddy own a sapph too !! ,thanks tabetha.
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Old Dec 15, 2008 | 05:06 PM
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maybe not enough fluid?col93saphcos
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Old Dec 15, 2008 | 05:28 PM
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Mine is around 1/2" to 3/4" above max AFTER being pressurised.
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Old Dec 15, 2008 | 06:55 PM
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right will try more fluid,see if that helps,was bit unsure about putting to much in before,think its icy so probably test it tomorrow evening.
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Old Dec 16, 2008 | 03:23 PM
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have put level to about 3/4" adove max when pressurized,but when staionary press brake pedal and eventually both lights come on again!will test drive in wee bit,how long should it take for abs pump to pressurize?mine seems to take about 20/30 seconds,well felt like long time,sure ive bled them about 4 times as per manual could there still be air in system?brakes dont feel any different if i pump them,thanks again
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Old Dec 16, 2008 | 08:06 PM
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still the same,fucking sick of it
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Old Dec 17, 2008 | 06:50 AM
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MIne takes a good 30 seconds to go out/pressurize.
I would now have a wiggle to see if there are any loose connections anywhere, as it costs nothing.
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Old Dec 17, 2008 | 07:01 AM
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ok,will try wiggle test tonight,thanks col93saphcos
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