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Old 31-10-2004, 05:37 PM
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ive got a 96 escort (obviously with a cat converter) and im putting a escort rs turbo engine in

wen i comes to m.o.t time, will i need to fit a cat converter to it even tho the rs turbo never had one ?
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no you won't need to fit one
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being a 1996 model i think you will need to pass a catalyst emission test, im a tester so i will have a look in the book tomorrow.(scoobys sometimes pass de-catted, so you may be ok anyway.)
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if you can prove that teh age of the engine fitted is less than that of teh car then you will be able to have your cars emissions tested as the engine age , i.e 1994 car - fitted with a 1986 engine and proved to be then the emissions of 1986 will be tested

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being a 1996 model i think you will need to pass a catalyst emission test, im a tester so i will have a look in the book tomorrow.(scoobys sometimes pass de-catted, so you may be ok anyway.)
if you could please mate
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Originally Posted by markk
if you can prove that the age of the engine fitted is less than that of the car then you will be able to have your cars emissions tested as the engine age , i.e 1994 car - fitted with a 1986 engine and proved to be then the emissions of 1986 will be tested

hth

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well hopefully any decent tester should know a escort rs turbo engine wen he sees one lol
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when that time comes any good tester will realise that you have carried out an engine conversion and he should test the engine like he would an rst. he won't carry out a cat test. even if you put a cat on the vehicle it wouldn't past because it wouldn't have the engine management to control the gas flows out of the engine, and the cat would get blocked
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i was wrong! it does go by the age of the engine as everyone else said, what it says is: the onus is on the presenter to show proof of the engines age. (but i doubt they will ask as said above)
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ok m8, thanks alot
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What you doing with the hamsters Sime?? Giving em to the RSPCA??

What kinda power we lookin at anyway mate??
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had the same problem the other day with a mitsibushi fto

the lad had put on a stainles cat replacment pipe on which obviously wouldnt pass the cat test. then we worked out that there was no listing of it in the book so it became extept from a cat test and acording to the test procedure you then just carry out a non cat test.

so id think with yours not being a std car it is not going to be listed ethier, so should qualify the same (but im not an mot tester just work at an mot station)

and of the top of my head im sure its any car after 1992 should have a cat
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Originally Posted by K3V HA
What you doing with the hamsters Sime?? Giving em to the RSPCA??

What kinda power we lookin at anyway mate??
**sime hears a shadowy voice from a distant past....**

not as much as yours m8 but around 150 ish....for now

btw i do have a wiper motor cover if ya want it
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Yes matey, top stuff, how much do ya want for it?? I hear a mutual friend 'might' be comin this way to look at a tub, so he might be able to bring it!! Ill ask him!
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Hi folks. The car would first of all be tested as a post 92 car, so a BET test will be done to check the CAT. obviously this would fail, so the programme will go on to ask for more detailed info of the engine code. there will not be a code for the RST engine for a 96 model escort.

From here, the tester will then carry out the test to default limits.
According to the MOT book pre 95 cars qualify for a non-cat test.
Unfortunately cars registered later than this need to pass specified limits.
Idle: co=0.5% HC= no requirement. Fast idle: co=0.3% HC=200ppm Lambda=1+/- 0.03.

These are very tight limits. But I could be wrong.
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i spose the best bet then is put the mk6 cat in between the rst downpipe and the mk6 sysyem then make a cat bypass for it too

not sure how a cat will effect the running of the engine tho
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Cars after AUGUST 1992 have to have cats, but if you do an engine swap it all comes down to the age of the engine.

So you DON'T need a cat mate
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