bamcossi

ive got it turning over and it tries to fire but just wont grab hold and some times tries to fire on iduction stroke. ive checked the timing over and over and set it to the book please help.
Bam

Dan@Rapid-Ford

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was the car running and then this happend or have you done something and now it won't start?

to start you could check your crank pully has 4 teeth and make sure the sensor gap is between 0.6-1mm 0.8 is what I use.

HTH

bamcossi

ive never had the engine running bought it and was told it was running before it come out do u think the cams could be in wrong

Miller 3

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dizzy set up ok ?

bamcossi

when i set the engine to tdc the dizzy was set to fire at 3 so ive put that right wouldnt even attempt to fire before i did this.

J1mbo

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all four injectors working? got spark on all 4 plugs ? could check just incase !??

Dan@Rapid-Ford

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Cams in wrong??? if you haven't fitted a timing belt then it 'could' be okay.

could be lots of other things, does the engine sound good? when you say set it up by the book what do you mean?

Check your crank sensor as I said above it might get you out of trouble.

bamcossi

had injectors out there all fireing not had no dealings with injectors they spat fuel out in no pattern at all is this correct and number 3 spark was a little week

bamcossi

is there any way of checking this without lending or buying an other one
what i mean is i set it to the book how it reads align all marks on pulleys and check for tdc in number 1 plug hole im a car painter not mechanic so i have to read and do what it says in the manual lol.

stevecossy

Hi When ya checked the timing was the lug on the bottom pulley lined up with the mark as thats tdc not the groove on pulley, also check rotor arm in dissy is exactly in middle of mark on dissy casing. Good luck.
Cheers steve.

tabetha

As said check the alignment with the camwheels pointers pointing towards each other and in line with the join between head and rocker cover, the crank pulley must be on the LUG nearest the "V" groove, NOT the groove itself(this is just for checking ignition timing, though not adjustable).
The phase sensor(dizzy) must be 100% in line of the centre of the rotor arm with the scribe mark on the dizzy body metal top where the cap goes down, about the 1 o'clock position.
If the phase was out it would still start no problem but would overfuel chronically, as it would go to batched firing as it does when cranking(I beleive).
As everyone seems to have missed it, check your PLUG GAPS, and set to 0.6mm, my own cossie would not even fire at the "correct" gap that ford specified on the sticker on the intercooler.
tabetha

bamcossi

yer i noticed the groove and the mark so checked and set it with the mark its getting on my wick now taking longer to start the engine than it did to build the whole front end up lol thanx to all you lot on here ive a few things to check today cheers all Bam

dojj

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are you replacing the engine in a cossie for a cossie or are you swapping an engine into anotehr car that's not originally a cossie?

and, if it's the first, did you get the engien from the same year cossie as yours as if the ecu's are different this may be your end reslut problem

bamcossi

yes my car is a gen rwd saf cossi the engine is a rwd out of nearly same age and is the ecu it very nearl fires then goes a little tight end tries to spin back a turn

ShandzS1

Sounds like ign timing is way out....

bamcossi

thats what i keep thinking but ive checked loads of times and 2 of my mates have also checked its bang on even took cam cover off to make sure cams are in right

tabetha

Have a DOUBLE check on your firing order, and lead positions in the cap.
tabetha

Jamie@FastFord

I've had a very similar problem with mine before, which turned out to be a bad earth on the ignition amplifier. Might be worth checking.

Also, another common one is getting the plugs on the dizzy and crank sensor mixed up. They're both in the same place on the loom but one is grey and one is green, make sure the grey one goes to the dizzy and the green one goes to the plug on the end og the crank sensor.

bamcossi

has the alloy heat sink got be earthd had a look at my sensor wires ive the white going to white so presume thats correct thanks for tips now the bloody starter motors gave up so trying to get one of those at mo

bamcossi

just been made sure the amps earthed cant try it still no starter motor
should have kept my escos

mechanic28

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sounds like you got your firing order wrong to me?

bamcossi

thats what i keep telling myself but checked it over and over im gona check again just to make sure STILL NOT GOT A BLOODY STARTERMOTER