Technical help Q & A Got A technical problem with you car? Keep it in here where the techies hang out and we will try to solve it for you!!

Is the RS Turbo's Boost Control Solenoid the same as the Cossie one?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 07-05-2008, 08:34 PM
  #1  
cozmeister
More boost Igor!
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
cozmeister's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: In my Cosworth
Posts: 3,100
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default Is the RS Turbo's Boost Control Solenoid the same as the Cossie one?

I'll start with a question - Is the RS Turbo's Boost Control Solenoid the same as the Cossie one?

Here's for why...

Whilst at tabetha's place the other day with the fuel pump, we discovered that my 'amal' valve doesn't work. In one of my boxes of junk, I had a spare from an RS Turbo, so tonight I thought "Why not stick it on and see if it's any different?" I plugged it in, and it clicked, so I guess it worked.

If that was where I'd stopped I wouldn't be writing this piece.

So I set to work pulling the duff one off, and sticking its replacement in. Straight forward, even I can do it - three hoses and two screws and it's all over.

I started it up and set off for a 'leisurely' drive. Driving around off boost was great, no difference there. I found a straight, empty piece of tarmac and nailed it in second. It went like absolute STINK and nearly kicked out, the amal valve was clattering its nuts off, and when I let off to change up, the dump valve sounded horrendous - almost like a squeal! I eased off, after having a love explosion in my pants from the acceleration, I found another suitable piece of black stuff. I went for it again, and again, it went like stink, I managed to look at the boost guage which wound up PAST 20psi. At this point I crapped myself and took it easy. The squeal from the dump valve was still there as I let off.

Next piece of road, I tried applying some gentle throttle, but the boost guage only went up to 5psi this time, no further!!!! I'm really bricking it at this point. It was hesitating and almost begging to stop.

I pulled over and quickly unplugged the 'offending' boost control valve, and limped home. I've not had a brown trouser moment for years up til now. I got home, and quickly swapped the devices back again. When I pulled up I noticed it was idling high - thats because the excess boost had shoved the fuel pressure regulator's vacuum hose straight off! I guessed that this was also the cause of the high pitched dumping sound.

Just to be on the safe side, I burned my finger checking that I'd not wrecked the turbo - the shaft still had no play in it. Thank fook!

I set off for another little drive, made full boost (14/15 psi) once but that squeal was back again. When I went to pull off the next time though, there was no dump! "Oh god, now what?" A little bit of throttle answered that - it chattered, with thankfully, no squeal. I limped home again, and this time it had blown off the dump valve (and boost guage)'s vacuum hose. I've not dared drive it since...

So, the moral to this story is: if you don't know if it works, sell it to some other poor sucker. Or, get it setup properly!

Question 2: have I fooked it up, or potentially wrecked anything?

Last edited by cozmeister; 07-05-2008 at 09:41 PM.
Old 08-05-2008, 03:17 PM
  #2  
Aaroncast
BANNED
BANNED
 
Aaroncast's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: LOCAL TO YOU
Posts: 791
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Whilst at tabetha's place the other day with the fuel pump, we discovered that my 'amal' valve doesn't work-
--------WHY DIDNT YOU ASK WHILE YOU WAS THERE ???????????????????
Old 08-05-2008, 03:53 PM
  #3  
KSA-Cossie
Professional Waffler
iTrader: (4)
 
KSA-Cossie's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Shutting down jap crap
Posts: 25,439
Received 19 Likes on 17 Posts
Default

No they're different m8.
Old 08-05-2008, 03:59 PM
  #4  
cozmeister
More boost Igor!
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
cozmeister's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: In my Cosworth
Posts: 3,100
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Originally Posted by Aaroncast
Whilst at tabetha's place the other day with the fuel pump, we discovered that my 'amal' valve doesn't work-
--------WHY DIDNT YOU ASK WHILE YOU WAS THERE ???????????????????

Cos I was buzzing from having a shiny new filter and pump fitted and forgot


Originally Posted by KSA-Cossie
No they're different m8.
That's the answer I wanted

For sale: 1x RS Turbo Boost Control Solenoid
Old 08-05-2008, 04:09 PM
  #5  
Stu @ M Developments
PassionFords Creator



iTrader: (12)
 
Stu @ M Developments's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Blackpool, UK Destination: Rev limiter
Posts: 28,824
Received 95 Likes on 76 Posts
Default

Quality story and very well written. Brightened my day mate. Thanks.
Old 08-05-2008, 04:10 PM
  #6  
Stu @ M Developments
PassionFords Creator



iTrader: (12)
 
Stu @ M Developments's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Blackpool, UK Destination: Rev limiter
Posts: 28,824
Received 95 Likes on 76 Posts
Default

PS: Only the jets are different so just change them to the right config, but if your boost has been set with one that doesnt work you need to get it all set up again with one that does. Im guesssing your is a stage 1.

P.P.S: Lucky you didnt melt her.
Old 08-05-2008, 06:03 PM
  #7  
tabetha
20K+ Super Poster.
 
tabetha's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: uk
Posts: 24,596
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

I spilt blood working on his car, what a laugh, we were like paul and barry chuckle!!
I managed to put the pump on 90 degrees out so I couldn't plug it in so off it all came again, that was after I forgot where everything went, which way round the pipe went etc.
Seemed to make a big difference though when we had done it, I even offered to get out of the car so he could get over the road hump without grinding his exhaust(too may chocy bars!!).
The old filter was on backwards, and when cut open full of slime, a thick greasy green slime, the fuel we tipped out was greenish/brown in colour!!
tabetha
Old 09-05-2008, 04:55 PM
  #8  
cozmeister
More boost Igor!
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
cozmeister's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: In my Cosworth
Posts: 3,100
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
PS: Only the jets are different so just change them to the right config, but if your boost has been set with one that doesnt work you need to get it all set up again with one that does. Im guesssing your is a stage 1.

P.P.S: Lucky you didnt melt her.
It is indeed Stage 1, of some sort anyway. I take it the jets can just pop out with a little bit of brute force and/or ignorance?

And yes, I feel VERY lucky - didn't half shift though, I had no idea that my engine could do that! I know what I want from it now!

Originally Posted by tabetha
I spilt blood working on his car, what a laugh, we were like paul and barry chuckle!!
I managed to put the pump on 90 degrees out so I couldn't plug it in so off it all came again, that was after I forgot where everything went, which way round the pipe went etc.
Seemed to make a big difference though when we had done it, I even offered to get out of the car so he could get over the road hump without grinding his exhaust(too may chocy bars!!).
The old filter was on backwards, and when cut open full of slime, a thick greasy green slime, the fuel we tipped out was greenish/brown in colour!!
tabetha
It was a bit grim in there...and bodge tape made a great substitute for micropore

Last edited by cozmeister; 09-05-2008 at 04:58 PM.
Old 09-05-2008, 05:49 PM
  #9  
tabetha
20K+ Super Poster.
 
tabetha's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: uk
Posts: 24,596
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

The jets are easy to get out by puttinmg a coarse wood screw in the hole and turning a bit then just pull with pliers, they are not tight.
Did you like my NHS approved repair to my finger!!
tabetha
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
original
Technical help Q & A
21
30-01-2022 08:20 PM
carlo
Pictures, video & Photoshop Forum
24
05-10-2015 08:20 PM
Matt Baxter
Ford RS Cosworth Parts for Sale
6
16-09-2015 08:30 PM
CabrioTurbo
General Car Related Discussion.
1
01-08-2015 11:04 AM
Escortdriver1
Ford RS Cosworth Parts for Sale
1
31-07-2015 02:36 PM



Quick Reply: Is the RS Turbo's Boost Control Solenoid the same as the Cossie one?



All times are GMT. The time now is 04:18 AM.