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Old Nov 9, 2007 | 09:23 PM
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the wife has a cossie managed FRST, and its got a annoying judder/ misfire at 2800rpm. how do i gap the sensor on the bottom pulley?
as im running outt ideas!
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Old Nov 9, 2007 | 09:27 PM
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IIRC this has to be at 0.8? Please someone correct me if I am wrong

Gap as you would any other sensor - loosen bolts, get gap right and then tighten up (gap between 4 pickups and sensor)

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Old Nov 9, 2007 | 09:30 PM
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thanks! JJ, would that cause the symptoms?
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Old Nov 9, 2007 | 09:36 PM
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if its incorrectly gapped it will cause a miss fire
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Old Nov 9, 2007 | 09:38 PM
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Jay & JJ. I thank You.
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Old Nov 9, 2007 | 09:39 PM
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NP Best of luck with it - also check plugs


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Old Nov 9, 2007 | 09:42 PM
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NP Best of luck with it - also check plugs


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it had new plugs and leads less than 300 ago!! but cheers!
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Old Nov 9, 2007 | 09:45 PM
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has it got a converted cossie dizzy on it to ? if so gap the phase sensor to
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Old Nov 9, 2007 | 09:47 PM
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I dont know much about FRSTs to be honest, only cossies. But in the cossie land the other critical part of the equation is the Phase Sensor. Sepcifically, the wires in the sensor tend to break down.

Now on a cos, it is located on the distributor (under the cap). Dont even know if the RST uses one but it will need some form of cam timing input. If there is, also check that it is gapped properly - I think the manual says betweeen 0.2 - 0.3

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Great minds think alike Jay! Beat me to it! LOL

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Old Nov 9, 2007 | 09:50 PM
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Old Nov 9, 2007 | 09:52 PM
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yes it does have a 'lashed' dizzy. i will check that tomoz!! im seriously thinking of converting to ofac. less hassle!!

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not a bad idea lennie if it is a lash up !

still dont get it why people pay a small fortune to have webber management put on a rst/frst
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Old Nov 9, 2007 | 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by jay.
not a bad idea lennie if it is a lash up !

still dont get it why people pay a small fortune to have webber management put on a rst/frst
i bought the car with it 18mths ago and its done.... 300 miles! Ofac is fine ( for her!) i think that weber managment should stay on a cossie too!!

i mean FFs all she want to do is paint it pink and put stars up it!!! (serious!)
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right lock her in a fuckin seller and sell the car
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Old Nov 9, 2007 | 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by jay.
right lock her in a fuckin seller and sell the car
fuck that. you seen the size of my missus! im 23 stone and 6 ft and she scares me! lol
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u can see why i gave up and decided to sell the lot now cant ya lennie. Yes mfi's crap, but least i pus every garage around will be familiar with a standard rs turbo set up, instead of trying to explain what uve done with a cossie dizzy lol
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Old Nov 9, 2007 | 11:25 PM
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why not convert it to run coil pack got to be more simple than a lashed up dizzy ?
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Sorting your CPS to PPS syncronisation would seem a better bet.
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Old Nov 10, 2007 | 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
Sorting your CPS to PPS syncronisation would seem a better bet.
can i have that in 'Lennie' language! CPS i understand to be crank position sensor but PPS?
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I think that PPS would be Phase Position Sensor(Stu?)

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Correct Sir.
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Old Nov 10, 2007 | 11:46 AM
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and that is done how? i cant drive the fooker and its doing my nut in.
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Is the Phase sensor in the dizzy like the cos? If so, then it is basically a magnet. You can undo one of the screws and adjust with feeler gauges.

Sadly I know nothing of the non cossie stuff!

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Old Nov 10, 2007 | 12:01 PM
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yeah. i have got a good idea! im gonna burn the cunt!! lol
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Old Nov 10, 2007 | 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by LoOnIe!!
yeah. i have got a good idea! im gonna burn the cunt!! lol
Probably easier in the long run! LOL

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CPS gap = 0.8
PPS gap = 0.3

Dizzy also needs rotating so that the rotor arm points to the groove in the dizzy body.
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