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Old 11-10-2006, 12:44 PM
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Default Flame Traps and Breather Vents - Need or No Need What ???

I think that is what they are called anyway? Anyway, this bit here...



So, what I am planning is to vent the extra port on this separator here...



Down to the push fitting that this hose would normally connect to...



To carry out the above I obviously would be doing away with the plastic part with the red cap and then connect the vacuum line to the top of the dump valve to the port on the inlet manifold where small dia hose would normally connect (with a different conector in place).

So does this cause any trouble or is the part not needed in Escort conversions??

Second question is...can I just remove the whole flame trap all together and fit an alloy connector in its place like this one but straight type as against 90 degree...




What is the purpose of a flame trap anyway?

CheeRS all

Dave...


PS> Yes I know Paul, I never listen!! LOL
Old 11-10-2006, 01:56 PM
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Your last photo is how I was running my breather. Worked for me.
Old 11-10-2006, 02:38 PM
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yep, you can remove it.


it is not a 'flame trap' merely just a oil seperator (just a smaller version than the uprated aftermarket breather/seperator you are aboutto fit.

removing it allows the engine to breathe more easilly and reduces the risk of blowing a rear mainor front bottom pulley seal due to excessive crankcase pressure caused by blow by.

ideally you need to vent from both sides of the block,, theer is a nothe port on the turbo side, under the exhaust manifold, (the knock sensor bolts to it on a cat car.)
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JOn, cheers mate.

Dave, yes I know about the second pint for breathing so will eventually tap into this also. Now you say the set upworks better with this bit removed I will dig out the old NA bits I have laid about and get venting!

Cheers all
Old 16-10-2006, 11:10 AM
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for your info, BigDave, the thread in the block on the driver's side for the other breather pipe is 3/8 x 18 NPT
Old 16-10-2006, 01:14 PM
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Thanks Jon, I am sure I have an ally fitting for that screw some place? I will have to dig deep tonight!

Out of interest, what about this point here on a Holbay engine I have in my shed...



I can alsouse this fella for the other side if I cant find the new push fit one I bought some months back...



On a normal block, what normally sits in the hole where the ally fitting is on the first pic?

CheeRS
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just a bung normally. these are the 2 poins you should connect your breather to

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Dave, is it normally not the bung/bolt you see just up and left of the one I have in pic one? I bought the last one from GGR and they said it was this one that was removed.

Which one is the better then? Or no difference?

CheeRS
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the other bung on the first pic is the water drain bung
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Just as well I did not vent that then eh! LOL
Cheers Jon.
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