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Old 25-07-2004, 01:51 PM
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hi,
does any one know what sort of fuel pressure i should be running after the regulator at idle,
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Old 25-07-2004, 04:01 PM
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mine was set as std for stge 3, i think its about 3 to3.5 bar on tickover
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mine to....3 to 3,5 bar
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with vacuum pipe disconnect from the reg i hope
Old 25-07-2004, 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by GARETH T
with vacuum pipe disconnect from the reg i hope
Old 26-07-2004, 10:00 AM
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Taken from the YB Engine Manual, now online complete at:
https://passionford.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=63047

or the section on Fuel System
https://passionford.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=63065

The Pressure Regulator

To ensure accurate fuel metering and extend the capacity of the injectors it is necessary to reduce the fuel rail pressure at idle and low power usage whilst increasing the fuel rail pressure under boost conditions. This is achieved by feeding a inlet manifold pressure signal to the fuel pressure regulator:

The Fuel Injector

The injectors are solenoid operated valves.
The quantity of fuel injected depends only on injector open time and fuel rail pressure.
Injection is in a cone shape and the feed pressure 3,0 bar (modified by manifold pressure acting on the diaphragm of the pressure regulator), sufficient to cause a very fine spray.

Does that mean that the fuel pressure should always be 3 bar above the manifold pressure to maintain a constant 3 bar difference across the injector? i.e. at 1 bar boost, fuel rail pressure = 4 bar?

or is the rail pressure 3 bar with the pressure reg feed disconnected but it is modified in a non linear way by the pressure feed and the diaphragm?

as i understand it, it is always a 3 bar difference. but you can up the fuel pressure slightly to gain more flow out of the injectors and hence run a bit more boost than normal (to be checked by WB AFR)
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Hi,

Set up pressure regulator is 3.5 bars on Cossie.
It's marked on regulator.

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Set up pressure regulator is 3.5 bars on Cossie.
It's marked on regulator
really? i know that 3.5 is marked on the regulator, but the manual says 3 bar.
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Its 3.5 bar.
The manual is correct yet unclear when it informs you that it is 3bar after the manifold vacuum has acted upon the unit.

With the pipe discionnected so the manifold has no effect, the presure is 3.5bar.
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nice one stu, that clarifies it
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So what should the pressure reading be if there is a fuel pressure gauge fitted in the car? 3 bar?
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3.5 bar above manifold pressure. so at idle it should be around 3 bar, and at 1 bar boost it should be about 4.5 bar. that's my understanding anyway. hope i'm right.
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Hi,

If you have a fuel pressure gauge, and TC pressure gauge, you can read :

on idle, manifold pressure = - 0.8 ; fuel pressure = 2.7 (total = 3.5)
on cruising, manifold pressure = 0 ; fuel pressure = 3.5 (total = 3.5)
on charge, ie manifold pressure = 1.1 ; fuel pressure = 4.6 (total = 3.5)

Fuel pressure on the injector noze should be always 3.5 bars.

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