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Old Nov 3, 2014 | 10:30 AM
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Not updated this for a while,

Just finished putting the pressure transducers in for fuel pressure and center diff pressure
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Its almost ready for mapping now.
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Old Aug 9, 2015 | 09:38 AM
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What transducers do you use Mark?
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Old Aug 16, 2015 | 08:46 PM
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Decided against the dash showing center diff pressure, so changed that to percentage. 0 = no pressure, so 2wd, 100 =full lock, full 4wd.


Also, changed the rear strut bodies to widen the rear end, the Grp A lower clamps I cut off and made some new plates to re camber the hubs.

Should have been ready to map but been waiting 4 weeks for some hoses 😭
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Old Feb 28, 2016 | 10:47 PM
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Old Feb 28, 2016 | 10:48 PM
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Really should update this more often lol
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Old Feb 29, 2016 | 05:03 PM
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Need bigger photos too Mark, thats tiny
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Old Feb 29, 2016 | 05:31 PM
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Sorry, maybe I should have said, click it, it's a video lol
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Old Mar 13, 2016 | 09:10 PM
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Found an old video

Wish I still had this car
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Old Aug 16, 2016 | 11:40 PM
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Not done any updates at all, its a bind trying to get images on here, no matter what browser I use the little yellow image box does nothing.

here goes

Seats and belts now in, these have to be FIA approved and dated, have a shelf life of 5 years, so even if you do not even sit in them, after 5 years they are not eligible for competition
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The boy in the image was not even born when I started this build, my son has a love for the car too.

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lots of reinforcement required underneath

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When night time comes around daylight is important

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Only when the seats go in (just about when testing starts) can you then appreciate that the driver display needs to be moved to a better position.
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The car has had an engine management change as well as having 3 different dash displays since the build began.
Big thanks to Andy Gallacher for sorting the NEW ecu/dash displays, lesson learned, buy new units not second hand, they will work then.

Try some videos but Photobucket won't even play them




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Old Aug 17, 2016 | 12:12 AM
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Old Aug 17, 2016 | 09:15 AM
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Epic build mark loved reading the thread
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Old Aug 17, 2016 | 09:43 AM
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Car looks great Mark. Is she ready to rock now?
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Old Aug 17, 2016 | 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by massivewangers
Car looks great Mark. Is she ready to rock now?

Almost, just a fuel tank cover and I have to finish the sump/front diff mount.

It will be run as a 2wd initially for a shakedown.
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Old Nov 6, 2016 | 09:02 PM
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Some changes to the engine specs, chassis alignment, and fuel tank cover now done.
Just more picky bits that im working on now.

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Old Nov 8, 2016 | 02:43 PM
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Coming along great Mark

Well done
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Old Nov 11, 2016 | 04:41 PM
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Looks great that
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Ha 2016 since I last looked at this.

Been out, done a rally, so many changes since. These are from the last couple of years.
Currently been testing the active 4wd system. Of the three differentials the Escorts had, non of mine are from an Escort, it now has no centre diff, and a non Ford front.
So far, traction is mega.







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Old Jun 1, 2020 | 09:41 PM
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How time flies

I stopped updating these forums a long time ago as it just takes too much time.
Every other year is not so bad though. The above turbo, meh, was ok, just did not produce the boost I wanted. Sorted that out with a Holset. Still restricted, Peaks at 3.4b absolute now. Makes around 580nm on pump fuel.

After running the Skyline box for many years I felt that the car was so much better than its gearbox, with such a short power band (restrictor chokes flow at 5500rpm) I really need a sequential. Same plan, its not a period car, I don't need period bits, I don't want to buy a Ł15k+ gearbox that I cannot get bits for (FFD).
After some research and a plan...

New gearbox project arrived. When is an auto not an auto?



Just got to make it fit



Little bit of CAD (Can't be arsed showing the Ford side)













All good fun. 7 Speed Sequential gearbox. 30-50ms gear changes with factory life.
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Old Jun 1, 2020 | 10:25 PM
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Wow thats some going, take it it'sa bmw box?
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Old Jun 3, 2020 | 10:18 AM
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Looking at it last nite you’ve got some work todo but am sure you’ll get it sorted pal
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Old Jun 3, 2020 | 11:39 AM
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Love this car and the Development from yourself mate
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Old Jun 3, 2020 | 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by tracktoy
Wow thats some going, take it it'sa bmw box?
It is yes.
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Old Jun 3, 2020 | 07:45 PM
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Been years since I looked into this post not to good keeping up these days but this is epic man brilliant to see the progress!!
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Old Jun 4, 2020 | 08:25 AM
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Awesome idea to use the BMW M3/M4 DCT box with the Skyline 4wd transfer box! I wonder how you will fit it all together. And also how you will control the DCT box, as I don't think that will be very easy.
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Old Jun 4, 2020 | 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Marc sierra
Awesome idea to use the BMW M3/M4 DCT box with the Skyline 4wd transfer box! I wonder how you will fit it all together. And also how you will control the DCT box, as I don't think that will be very easy.
It's not so bad but I am an engineer.
Mock ups are almost drawn. Adapter prototype parts will happen first.
External GCU with CAN to my engine ECU is no problem for mapping the box.
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Great idea and good conversion, those boxes can take loadsa power. I take it the skyline transfer box is just 1:1 so whatever goes in comes out. They swap cogs so quickly that will be great
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Old Jun 4, 2020 | 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Caddyshack
Great idea and good conversion, those boxes can take loadsa power. I take it the skyline transfer box is just 1:1 so whatever goes in comes out. They swap cogs so quickly that will be great
Yes Skyline is direct.
This box has been proven at 1000nm on std clutches and over 1200nm on upgraded clutches.
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Old Jun 7, 2020 | 11:04 AM
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My kind of project, keep the progress pics coming Mark.
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Old Jun 7, 2020 | 01:53 PM
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Awesome and clearly you have some talent... unfortunately my talent runs out at changing the oil
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Which gearbox ECU you planning on using Mark? Had a little look at these gearboxes and I reckon one would work with my LT5 for the Camaro build
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Old Jun 7, 2020 | 11:14 PM
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Which gearbox ECU you planning on using Mark? Had a little look at these gearboxes and I reckon one would work with my LT5 for the Camaro build
HTG. Theres a few to choose from. All depends on the box too. Not all supported.
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HTG. Theres a few to choose from. All depends on the box too. Not all supported.
Thanks, will take a look. They support the M2 box? Loads of companies work with the E9X box but M2/3/4 not so much.
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Originally Posted by Martin-Hadland
Thanks, will take a look. They support the M2 box? Loads of companies work with the E9X box but M2/3/4 not so much.
Yes, the Fx boxes are ok with HTG. As with all of them you have to mod the transmission wiring in the box.
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How will the ratios work out in this? I guess you're dropping them down using the diffs?

I love this sort of thing. It makes me laugh really, as so many people say that modern cars are too complicated, and here you are putting this gearbox into your car. Just shows that, where there's a will, there's a way. If only more people in rallying were willing to try things.
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Originally Posted by massivewangers
How will the ratios work out in this? I guess you're dropping them down using the diffs?

I love this sort of thing. It makes me laugh really, as so many people say that modern cars are too complicated, and here you are putting this gearbox into your car. Just shows that, where there's a will, there's a way. If only more people in rallying were willing to try things.
Ratios are pretty good to be fair, apart from 1st is short and 7th is long but, changing gear in 1st to 2nd takes 50ms.

1st is 4.8:1, 7th is 0.67:1. All inbetween is a closer version of what I have now.

Really I will have a close ratio 5 speed (2-6th) with an easy launch gear in 1st that will shift seamlessly to 2nd. Certainly 6 usable gears for a rally car.
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There you go, with my diff ratios and my wheel sizes, my shift point is 5500rpm, rev limiter at 6300rpm. Perfect.
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That's pretty good. Second to sixth look good. Seventh will make it pretty nice on road sections. My Escort was bloody awful
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Old Aug 25, 2020 | 11:19 PM
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Phase one done. Box is in, part of phase two is done, transfer fits onto the box and has drive.

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One active 4wd DCT

Needs some control of the solenoids, temp and position sensors

Re-wire of the box internals
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