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Old Aug 9, 2008 | 05:20 PM
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Hi,
What would you say the best towing car would be for up to 1k?
A friend of mine wants to know as he has a little speed boat (about 15ft) so would probably have to be a 4x4 as it would have to go up and down steep slope thingys and beaches.
I'm thinking Land Rover discovery, Ford Explorer or even a quattro Audi.
Any suggestions?
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Old Aug 9, 2008 | 05:25 PM
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pajero/shogun?
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Jay has a pajero for sale in the cars for sale room mate Ł995 ideal
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Old Aug 9, 2008 | 05:31 PM
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2.9i granada cheap as chips can even get a good late cosworth one for well under the grand

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petrol or diesel?
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Something big like a volvo
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I used to have a 2.5 lwb shogun and it was great for towing at 50 - 60 mph but was guttless for normal driving didn't have any top speed it was reving flat out at 80mph and was so noisey aswell plus the bottom end went in the end still got it sitting in my garage if he wants a project.

Got a range rover p38 at the min fantastic 4x4 in every way can't beat it but won't get one under a grand after that i'd go for a discovery 300 tdi but don't even think you can get a good one of them for under a grand.
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Old Aug 9, 2008 | 05:47 PM
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dont let him buy a 1.6 foretrack there rubbish! and dont let him buy an auto either as when he wants to reverse ith any weight it wont do it, you can find cheap P38's for under a grand if you know were to look!

i have a 200TDi with 33" mud tyres for a grand if hes interested, its a complete mint motor with no rust at all pm me if hes interested
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dont let him buy a 1.6 foretrack there rubbish! and dont let him buy an auto either as when he wants to reverse ith any weight it wont do it, you can find cheap P38's for under a grand if you know were to look!
can you show me where theres a p38 for under Ł1000 then please cause my mates looking for one
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i've got a really clean 300 v8 for well under a grand, yes it's an auto and is a bit thirsty but towing with it is no problem. had a 30 foot twin axle trailer on last week over a muddy field, bit of wheel spin but put it in low ratio and off we went no worries!
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In terms of what's available for that kind of money a Pajero Diesel looks like a good bet.
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Old Aug 9, 2008 | 06:50 PM
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jimny would be ideal
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Old Aug 9, 2008 | 06:52 PM
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jimny would be ideal
wouldn't that be a bit small and light to tow a 15ft boat ?
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range rover classic does the job perfectly .
i used my old classic rangy to launch my 25 foot binliner and never strugled. we tried my mates shogun sport and the thing wouldnt have it.
and when your not towing with it , you can go offroading .
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volvo 850 tdi would get my vote unless your over 6 ft 3
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isuzu trooper diesel, sell for peanuts but pulls like a train.
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My Omega 2.5 V6 Which I have for sale for Ł850
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frontera are not to bad
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Originally Posted by FasterFords
wouldn't that be a bit small and light to tow a 15ft boat ?
if your doing huge miles then yes, but they are perfect for beach launches due to being light weight and 4 wheel drive
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Old Aug 10, 2008 | 07:44 AM
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under a grand? hum u may get a 200 tdi discovery. or even a late defender 300tdi.

will be best for the job, also it has the largest towing capacity of 3.5 ton.

some cars may not be legal to tow what u have in mind!?

also make sure ur mate passed his driving test before 1997, or he legally cant tow anything over 750 kg!!!
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Originally Posted by bunnies
In terms of what's available for that kind of money a Pajero Diesel looks like a good bet.
Pajero/shogun is a much better bet than a Landy.

Really well built and parts are easy to get.

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Old Aug 10, 2008 | 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Sonic Boom
My Omega 2.5 V6 Which I have for sale for Ł850
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they are immnese cars for the money. proper luxury cruiser
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Old Aug 10, 2008 | 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Lee Ivatt
also make sure ur mate passed his driving test before 1997, or he legally cant tow anything over 750 kg!!!
Yes you can

Category B vehicles may be coupled with a trailer up to 750kgs MAM (allowing a combined weight up to 4.25 tonnes MAM) or a trailer over 750kgs MAM provided the MAM of the trailer does not exceed the unladen weight of the towing vehicle, and the combination does not exceed 3.5 tonnes MAM.
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring...es/DG_10013073
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my 2.5 td swb shogun would be ideal........12m mot and 995.
would need a towbar fitting though-!
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Originally Posted by ebit

oh wow, never knew about that!

my suggestion is; sierra xr4x4, with centre and rear lsd's they're not too bad on the slippery stuff.
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Bowler grouler!!!
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Originally Posted by Lee Ivatt

also make sure ur mate passed his driving test before 1997, or he legally cant tow anything over 750 kg!!!
Originally Posted by ebit
Yes you can



http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring...es/DG_10013073

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Category B vehicles may be coupled with a trailer up to 750kgs MAM (allowing a combined weight up to 4.25 tonnes MAM) or a trailer over 750kgs MAM provided the MAM of the trailer does not exceed the unladen weight of the towing vehicle, and the combination does not exceed 3.5 tonnes MAM.


NO YOU CAN'T - read your own link again! New drivers, passing their test after 1997, do not have B+E entitlement, and therefore can not tow cars / boats or trailers weighing over 750kgs

Category B+E: Vehicles up to 3.5 tonnes MAM towing trailers over 750kgs MAM

Category B+E allows vehicles up to 3.5 tonnes MAM to be combined with trailers in excess of 750kgs MAM. In order to gain this entitlement new category B licence holders have to pass a further practical test for category B+E. There is no category B+E theory test. For driver licensing purposes there are no vehicle/trailer weight ratio limits for category B+E.

Small holiday trailers with a tent and cooker in yes, car trailers, boats etc, NO.
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oh wow, never knew about that!
Sorry James, your newly learned info was actually incorrect..., best forget it!
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It also says

a vehicle with an unladen weight of 1.25 tonnes and a MAM of 2 tonnes coupled with a trailer with a MAM of 1.25 tonnes could be driven by the holder of a category B entitlement. This is because the MAM of the combination does not exceed 3.5 tonnes and also the MAM of the trailer does not exceed the unladen weight of the drawing vehicle
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the same vehicle with an unladen weight of 1.25 tonnes and a MAM of 2 tonnes when coupled with a trailer with a MAM of 1.5 tonnes would fall within category B+E. This is because although the combined weight of the vehicle and trailer is within the 3.5 tonnes MAM limit, the MAM of the trailer is more than the unladen weight of the drawing vehicle
If the MAM doesn't exceed 3.5 tonnes you can drive in on a cat B license.

If you passed a car test on or after 1 January 1997 you're limited to vehicles up to 3.5 tonnes maximum authorised mass towing a trailer up to 750 kgs, or a vehicle and trailer combination up to 3.5 tonnes MAM providing the MAM of the trailer doesn't exceed the unladen mass of the towing vehicle. You'll need to pass an additional driving test in B+E if you wish to tow a caravan or trailer combination which exceeds these weight limits.
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring...les/DG_4022521

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Sorry James, your newly learned info was actually incorrect..., best forget it!
No it's correct.

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Ebit - Fair play, well reasoned and well responded.

One of these for me as I was wrong.


I've seen SO many people at the local Truck test centre with cars and trailers doing their tests that I thought all newbie drivers had to do the test.

I'm surprised by that, as some 17year old numb nut can now go out, pass a basic car test, then drag a 21 ft caravan behind a Toyota pick up provided the whole lot doesn't weigh more than 3.5 tonnes basically....

Crazy
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What the MAM ?????
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Early import Hilux surfs are starting to come around a grand? Jeep Cherokees and Grand Cherokees are very reasonable money at the moment.

LWB Nissan Terrano's [or ford maverick if you can find one] with the 2.7 TDi/Taxi Engine in will do the trick

If you can get a P38 Rangie for that money, don't bother, it'll cost you a fortune, as will most Landies at that price.

Originally Posted by Lee Ivatt
under a grand? ..... or even a late defender 300tdi.
I will give you a good profit on every late defender 300 tdi you can get hold of for under a grand![roadworthy with some MOT at least] Call me on 07947 570599, I've always got the cash waiting

Although you probably meant Discovery [in which case don't bother ringing ]

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Originally Posted by ebit
If the MAM doesn't exceed 3.5 tonnes you can drive in on a cat B license.
Providing the trailer's MAM doesn't exceed the unladen weight of the towing vehicle

Cat B
Tow car's MAM 2000kg
Tow car's unladen weight 1250kg
Trailer's MAM 1250kg

Cat B+E - Trailer exceeds cars unladen weight
Tow car's MAM 2000kg
Tow car's unladen weight 1250kg
Trailer's MAM 1500kg

steves24V's MAM is maximum authorised mass or gross vehicle weight
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granada 2.9 v6 very good for towing
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Its easy to pop 3.5 tons...

My SWB Pajero, alloy brain James trailer (4 wheel) and a rover 216si = 3.6 tons!!
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We towed for 'years' with a saab 900i. It was my parents and used for family holidays with van, 2 kids, 1 dog, 4 bikes, 3 canoes etc.

My brother kept it after and we used it for towing a 14ft boat - Never missed a beat. Only mods were saabs OE 'towing' springs.

Ugly as sin but easy big enough to sleep 2 in the boot with the seats down - as tried numerous times up in the lakes - two in the boot and one in the boat on a pay and display car park
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Originally Posted by SiB
NO YOU CAN'T - read your own link again! New drivers, passing their test after 1997, do not have B+E entitlement, and therefore can not tow cars / boats or trailers weighing over 750kgs

Category B+E: Vehicles up to 3.5 tonnes MAM towing trailers over 750kgs MAM

Category B+E allows vehicles up to 3.5 tonnes MAM to be combined with trailers in excess of 750kgs MAM. In order to gain this entitlement new category B licence holders have to pass a further practical test for category B+E. There is no category B+E theory test. For driver licensing purposes there are no vehicle/trailer weight ratio limits for category B+E.

Small holiday trailers with a tent and cooker in yes, car trailers, boats etc, NO.


Sorry James, your newly learned info was actually incorrect..., best forget it!
fuck me im confused? i havnt towed anything heavy for the last year since i was "told" the 750 rule. but reading that the way its worded it says;

i can basically tow a trailer under 3.5 ton mam as long as the trailer weight is not more than the weight of my car.?

the wankers why dont they word it properly, im gna call them and find out for deffinate!! as im a builder, i often use diggers and need to shift heavy stuff, and this is important to know!!!

So my landrover weighs in at 2.3 ton, and is plated to tow 3.5 ton (ps the only 4x4 that can legally pull 3.5)

So legally i can tow a trailer that weighs in at up to 1.2 tons right? or is that 1.2+750kg???
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Originally Posted by Lee Ivatt
(ps the only 4x4 that can legally pull 3.5)
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Originally Posted by Lee Ivatt
fuck me im confused? i havnt towed anything heavy for the last year since i was "told" the 750 rule. but reading that the way its worded it says;

i can basically tow a trailer under 3.5 ton mam as long as the trailer weight is not more than the weight of my car.?

the wankers why dont they word it properly, im gna call them and find out for deffinate!! as im a builder, i often use diggers and need to shift heavy stuff, and this is important to know!!!

So my landrover weighs in at 2.3 ton, and is plated to tow 3.5 ton (ps the only 4x4 that can legally pull 3.5)

So legally i can tow a trailer that weighs in at up to 1.2 tons right? or is that 1.2+750kg???
As far as i mind the daihatsu fourtrack also pulls 3.5t
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