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Old 24-09-2010 | 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by mad russell
Get a different flywheel they work really well
This must be where you gained the MAD bit in your username

It costs too much as it is for the clutch, yet alone changing the flywheel!


However if this doesnt work for long, il be back to ask for details
Old 24-09-2010 | 02:28 PM
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the gearbox looks sweet luke cant wait to see it/hear it on the 24th oct at the pod .first dibs on your flywheel if you change it lol
Old 24-09-2010 | 04:29 PM
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i run a helix kit in my nova mine s been fine but only done about 1500miles this year, i know of the pressure plate breaking up on a 450-500bhp corsa

so far mine seems fine

will await the update of the first drive with the box on
Old 24-09-2010 | 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Luca
This must be where you gained the MAD bit in your username

It costs too much as it is for the clutch, yet alone changing the flywheel!

However if this doesnt work for long, il be back to ask for details

How much is the clutch ??

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Old 24-09-2010 | 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by GaryHurn
i run a helix kit in my nova mine s been fine but only done about 1500miles this year, i know of the pressure plate breaking up on a 450-500bhp corsa

so far mine seems fine

will await the update of the first drive with the box on
Hi Gary Which Helix have you got the full paddle i guess ? What torque does your car make ??

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Helix quote the pressure plate at under 400lbft, I've been through all this before with them. ( thats if its the 6 paddle turbo setup )

Twin plate guaranteed the strength required but as Gary said they do hold up to it anyway with the single plate without the expense of going for a twin plate
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Helix quote the pressure plate at under 400lbft, I've been through all this before with them. ( thats if its the 6 paddle turbo setup )

Twin plate guaranteed the strength required but as Gary said they do hold up to it anyway with the single plate without the expense of going for a twin plate

Yes but as i have told them (which they were pleased to here its lasted fine even at 524 ftlbs
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Exactly, I know people who have used them for way more than 400 and had no issues whatsoever. Their just covering their arses.

Same way a AP clutch will take 500hp on a cossy, I very much doubt they quote them as being capable of taking that although they do.

I've always used Helix stuff, gives a nice pedal, never had one fail tbh and not ridiculous money.

That said I've just got a Tilton twin plate for my own car but thats only as I got a good deal on it.
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Originally Posted by mad russell
Hi Gary Which Helix have you got the full paddle i guess ? What torque does your car make ??

Russ
its a calibra turbo 4 paddle clutch kit i think they rate the pressure plate to 325-350ftlbs
car made 396bhp 375 ft lbs, the helix kits are great imo good value and last, give good pedal feel and not to stiff, done 2k miles in 6 months this year including totb, and various track days
so far touch wood hasheld up fine, i also have a ttv billet flywheel which is a superb bit of kit

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Old 25-09-2010 | 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by JonnyBravo
Exactly, I know people who have used them for way more than 400 and had no issues whatsoever. Their just covering their arses.

Same way a AP clutch will take 500hp on a cossy, I very much doubt they quote them as being capable of taking that although they do.

I've always used Helix stuff, gives a nice pedal, never had one fail tbh and not ridiculous money.

That said I've just got a Tilton twin plate for my own car but thats only as I got a good deal on it.
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its a calibra turbo 4 paddle clutch kit i think they rate the pressure plate to 325-350ftlbs
car made 396bhp 375 ft lbs, the helix kits are great imo good value and last, give good pedal feel and not to stiff, done 2k miles in 6 months this year including totb, and various track days
so far touch wood hasheld up fine, i also have a ttv billet flywheel which is a superb bit of kit
Sounds like we are all happy with helix thats good numbers on your car Gary nice one
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Originally Posted by mad russell
Sounds like we are all happy with helix thats good numbers on your car Gary nice one
its not bad numbers wouldve been more but we think we have reached the limit of the t34, its a fucking rocket ship (being 800kg) maybe upgrade to a gt30 and go for 450-500 we'll see
Old 25-09-2010 | 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by GaryHurn
its not bad numbers wouldve been more but we think we have reached the limit of the t34, its a fucking rocket ship (being 800kg) maybe upgrade to a gt30 and go for 450-500 we'll see
IMO if you fit a 3076 you will ruin the car

Stick with what Rob and Luca have proven to work nicely and work on the setup of the car over outright power.
Old 26-09-2010 | 10:56 AM
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Oh im not disputing the Helix option is good as you have all stated.



I opted for the clutchmasters set up stage 4 as at the time of ordering my car was only destined to run 350hp. With the clutch/fly set up now clocking up over 2500 miles and the increased power the clutch cover was not suitable and has failed.

With speaking to Clutchmasters in America the next option which will happily handle the power the car is running/may run. The stage 5 with uprated cover will be suitable.

I dont see the need to change flywheel and fit helix clutch.

Hopefully all should arrive from States tomorrow/Tuesday and be fitted with box by end of week. Then its on the dyno to get an accurate reading on what the car is producing currently. I for one have no idea could be 410hp could be more.
Old 26-09-2010 | 11:08 AM
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I'm not a fan of the Alloy flywheel from Fidanza tbh, hear too many bad stories where as the TTV ones simply work perfectly.

Either way you just need a setup that works !
Old 30-09-2010 | 10:35 AM
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Clutch arrived not long now.....
Old 30-09-2010 | 01:45 PM
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when are YOU fitting it?

dont brake a nail
Old 30-09-2010 | 02:03 PM
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Luke' if you was to replicate this build again, how much do you recon it would set ya back? msn me if you prefer mate?

as you know i have a little time on me hand at the moment and was just wondering lol

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Originally Posted by Spiky
when are YOU fitting it?

dont brake a nail
Car is being tweaked at JKM I dont have the time to fit myself so easier to leave with the pros.

gotta dash! Having my manicure and pedicure at 6.

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Luke' if you was to replicate this build again, how much do you recon it would set ya back? msn me if you prefer mate?

as you know i have a little time on me hand at the moment and was just wondering lol

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Old 02-10-2010 | 06:16 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jn-PY9w2AO4

Box is in and sounds mental, ratio's are so so much better
Old 02-10-2010 | 06:23 PM
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That sound the tits mate
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sounds very close, so be great for pod and places like brands hatch

would enjoy a ride out at some point luca
Old 02-10-2010 | 06:33 PM
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fuck that sounds nice
Old 02-10-2010 | 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Luca
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jn-PY9w2AO4

Box is in and sounds mental, ratio's are so so much better
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vzzIb5kHOo

this car sounds lethal at the end! milkfloat rings a bell because of the box haha respect though mate for spending all the hours and the money lol! on buildin a gorgeous rapid fiesta
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The incar vid sounds awsome mate!! Gota love a straight cut box!!
Old 02-10-2010 | 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by M K
sounds very close, so be great for pod and places like brands hatch

would enjoy a ride out at some point luca
Much longer ratio now mate.
The old box was far too short for the power of the car.

5-6 gear change is 154mph then 6th gear will go to just under 190mph
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190mph... wow! Did you expect the ratios to be that long? Maybe a new top speed record on the cards for a fezza?!
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Originally Posted by Liams
190mph... wow! Did you expect the ratios to be that long? Maybe a new top speed record on the cards for a fezza?!
The ratios were specced by myself and a few friends to find the ultimate match for the car.

Fingers crossed it helps, seemed to be better for the short drive today.

Looking forward to getting back to santapod at end of month
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Originally Posted by Luca
The ratios were specced by myself and a few friends to find the ultimate match for the car.

Fingers crossed it helps, seemed to be better for the short drive today.

Looking forward to getting back to santapod at end of month
box sounds awesome fella, cant wait to have mine back from elite now
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what power did she make mate ?
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Originally Posted by scoooby slayer
what power did she make mate ?
Not run yet will be sorted this week with a bit of mapping.

Waiting for a day when the weather is a bit more dyno friendly.
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Originally Posted by Luca
Not run yet will be sorted this week with a bit of mapping.

Waiting for a day when the weather is a bit more dyno friendly.
cool she certainly sounds like shes got plenty of oooommmph in that video
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the sound is amazing
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Good news Luca sounds the part thats for sure well done Are you going to Hampshire rsoc on wed ???

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sounds awesome luke !
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Sounds fuckin' nuts, no denying it!

Love it mate, stunning car
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i thought the gears in pictures look sex mate but it does shift
Old 03-10-2010 | 11:18 PM
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what date you down at pod mate, how you finding grip, slicks at 10 psi and space savers in the back lol


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