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Old 22-10-2012, 12:42 PM
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Sure am mate
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More done tonight.

Engine mounts blasted and fitted with new plated bolts as per usual.

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Front covers fitted with new seals, as above, blasted and new bolts

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Front pulley back from hard anodising and out together with 36-1 trigger

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Ring gaps done, pistons fitted to rods, and fitted. Rods torqued and ten studs torqued in.

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Some more tomorrow night as aiming for the dyno the weekend.

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Old 23-10-2012, 08:43 PM
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Very nice
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Slowly getting there mate.

Keep the updates coming.
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Cheers boys, flat out now, next couple weeks should see it plumbed up in car, he says lol
Old 23-10-2012, 08:55 PM
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Nice one jimbo
Old 23-10-2012, 09:08 PM
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any head work pics jimmy or have I missed that one
Old 23-10-2012, 09:18 PM
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Check a few pages back, it's a waples head for 500 to 650bhp as I want scope for the future without stripping the engines, has a nice pair of cams, they're big but I'm hoping will work well for where I want my peak power for the gearing I'm on. And just generally make a bit of an animal to be a moron in that's all I need lol.
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Looking great jim, nearly as good as my engine, lol
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Haha! I think yours I'll be more powerful!
Old 24-10-2012, 07:54 AM
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Would have thought you'd use allen hey head bolts on those arms, shocking

Looks mint pal, keep up the good work!
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Original fitment ftw
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Gay
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Well, i havnt been updating much as ive been flat out working late nights to get it on the dyno, my aim was last weekend but didnt make it, so this weekend it was! here is the rest of the photos from the build.

oil jets in and bottom end completed bar oil pump.

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head on and cambelt on with front pulleys

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dizzy blank

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new core plugs

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mk motorsport drop bracket

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sump looking good as new!

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coming together

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as usual, all new bolts

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wrc breather bolted to the block and sealed in. modeen fitted and pipes made

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getting tight!

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return to sump done

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rs500 water rail and the last wrc breather pipe done

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turbo oil feed on

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mount

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front pulley bolts in

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this is the last of the pics of the build.

so saturday the engine got loaded onto the dyno and it started first turn, awesome!

we ran it in most of saturday and set about some of the mapping saturday night. we saw some really strong figures and set about moving cam timing to see where the best compromise of torque, power and response using the superflo dyno options which are awesome, run through tests etc.

i sacrifised a little bit of torque to hold the power higher up but the torque is still awesome and the power and the way it holds it is awesome. im so so chuffed, it really is an amazing engine (should be considering the spec lol!)

anyway enough chat, heres the graphs

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so when warm up is done its coming off the dyno, few jobs to finish off, then into the car. the pulleys and cam cover will be changed for the new items etc

Jim
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As said before mate, awesome results
Well chuffed for ya, be good to see ours together to see the difference on the road
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Impressive mate, will be even better when it has a trottle cable clip, sorry bout that ill bring it when I pick mine up
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Originally Posted by Gav Diamond
As said before mate, awesome results
Well chuffed for ya, be good to see ours together to see the difference on the road
yes deffinately mate

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Impressive mate, will be even better when it has a trottle cable clip, sorry bout that ill bring it when I pick mine up
haha no worries, was screwing yesterday for a clip on the dyno and remembered
Old 04-11-2012, 09:41 PM
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that engine really is a work of art jimbo
Old 04-11-2012, 09:43 PM
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thanks mate will look even better when all the nice new bits are on
Old 04-11-2012, 11:23 PM
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Looks great jimbo
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very nice mate and over 550 hp, what turbo is that ? it looks to come on boost well and make good power.
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Amazing build Jim!
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Looks and goes killer!
Man that will be some fun!
Old 05-11-2012, 08:49 AM
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Brilliant power result Jim well done. Did you change your mind about the exhaust cam ?

Is the oil pressure reading correct Jim .

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Cheers boys, yes oil pressure is correct john, 3.8 bar. What makes you say about exhaust cam? The inlet and exhaust are both big, bigger than the normal 500 spec we do

Scooby slayer it's a trick t4, marham 247 left hand hexagonal shaft converted to ball bearing.
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Looks lovely Jim!! Well done mate
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Thanks Ronnie
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Sorry Jim , I thought you where using a standard exhaust cam . Just asking with the oil pressure because it doesn't rise with the revs .
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Did you get my pm about the wheels ?
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Originally Posted by johnyjn
Sorry Jim , I thought you where using a standard exhaust cam . Just asking with the oil pressure because it doesn't rise with the revs .
Oil pressure readings don't mean alot on this mate as each line of data, for example 3000rpm then 3500 rpm and so on and so on is a seperate pull.
Its not one run from 3500 up to 8000rpm its 10 runs.
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Originally Posted by johnyjn
Sorry Jim , I thought you where using a standard exhaust cam . Just asking with the oil pressure because it doesn't rise with the revs .
No chance mate, a Std exhaust cam would destroy this engine IMO, I don't like them but others do

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Yes mate I'll reply tonight

Originally Posted by Gav Diamond
Oil pressure readings don't mean alot on this mate as each line of data, for example 3000rpm then 3500 rpm and so on and so on is a seperate pull.
Its not one run from 3500 up to 8000rpm its 10 runs.

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Great results and the build quality is really impressive !
Old 05-11-2012, 03:23 PM
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that engine looks brilliant love the attention to detail and all the new little bits

also looks like a real strong engine there should upset a few people out there
Old 05-11-2012, 05:16 PM
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looks shit.................



only kidding its a work of art! be good to see it in the car. my old 3 door was a touring spec engine with T4 etc and loved the kick it gave you! 2.5 bar ftw!!
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Thanks boys!

Blunty that is the plan lol!

Andy in the car e spike of boost might be a bit higher but for transiently 32/33 is plenty lol
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Well it certainly looks the part Jim and produces the power to match

Question Jim regarding boost drop towards the end of the cycle, mine peaked a certain pressure then dropped back towards the end and some on here commented theirs peaked all the way to limit which i know they don't, can you tell me why they drop off is it in the mapping?

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Back reassure usually mate, the BP starts to push the wastegate open, I kept putting more preload on and got to a point when I thought that's enough, it's made awesome powerso why keep looking for more
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Originally Posted by J1mbo
Back reassure usually mate, the BP starts to push the wastegate open, I kept putting more preload on and got to a point when I thought that's enough, it's made awesome powerso why keep looking for more
Right that pretty much answers it mate

So then Jim what's the deal with the gearbox side of things? would you stay T5 with gearkit or different unit?
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Well, the torque is higher than I expected so I do beleive it won't last long, but I have a few ideas in the pipe line
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T4 Power

proper engine that Jimbo , and going in a proper car


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