bigryrs

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Brand new spray?

chaffe

Of course mate, i use nothing else to recondition ford parts lol, tin is getting low, i may need to re stock

chaffe

Anyone recomend a decent v6/cosworth 4x4 clutch (they are the same) set up that is reasonably priced? thought of using a six paddle centre with standard cover is this ok? never really used uprated clutches. thanks in advance

liammcl

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Glad the box came to good use mate.

The car looks spot on in Mallard, did you spray it yourself?

chaffe

Yeah its mostly going to be used in the car lol, and thanks, yeah i painted it myself in my garage, did all the welding and prep work myself too mate hows your build comming on?

liammcl

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really slow, as in years lol. It takes a back seat to kids and house etc. so I just do bits now and then.

chaffe

i see! Im trying to get my project finished before she gets any ideas! and the house can wait for now lol!

chaffe

Been busy with the engine tonight, flipped the manifolds and re drilled and tapped the new holes, ive now got to sort the oil return and feed.

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You can see on the picture above the oil draain for the head is where the return is going and the pressure switch on the block is where the feed will come from.

chaffe

anybody any idea on a clutch? thanks

robrs2

Clutch is the same as a 4x4 cossie and Diesel transit (not sure on the model)

Nice work on the exhaust. Think the alternator may need to be move down some?

chaffe

Cheers, looking for an uprated clutch though as i think the standard RS/v6 one wont hold the torque any ideas on one mate? Im mounting the alternator high up where th pas pump used to live (my car has no pas)

Damocos

Car looks cool mate, the clutch im using in mine is a AP 4 paddle plate with a Cosworth cover. Seems to work ok. Oh and the pic of the BOB Turbo that robrs2 put up belongs to me Mines nearly all done now, just got a mapping session to do........

chaffe

Cool mate, i will have a look at your thread when i get chance! im looking at putting my engine in over the next few days

JohnnyB

seen some single turbo 24v' s and they go fucking well, think about it a couple of psi and your 300bhp!!!!

chaffe

That's the idea mate! engine will be strong off boost, then pull like a train on boost lol

chaffe

chaffe

Bought this clutch plate, going to use it with a standard cover, hope this holds the torque of the mighty v6 turbo lol. Engine, box and car are ready to go together, but before i do that i am going to do the crap jobs lol; i have a mitsubishi gto twin turbo fuel pump to fit in my tank, the tank needs mounted, the fuel pipes need ran, the brakes need stripped and cleaned, new pads and discs, the subframe/ anti roll bar and handbrake cables need fitted correctly, all straight forward mechanicals but a bit tedious lol.

155lee

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you changed your mind and putting decent brakes on it or are you sticking with the rs turbo sized discs and calipers?

chaffe

a mate has some 320mm discs, alloy bells, cosworth calipers and brackets for sale, but obviously would need 17s for those, ill maybe buy them and keep them in stck for future though mate. I dont need big brakes to beat you at crail lol, You not starting a project thread for your saff?

chaffe

chaffe

put the high pressure fuel pipes on last night, secured all brake pipes, mounted my Mitsubishi Gto twin turbo in tank pump, and put the tank up. Got the brakes stripped down just now, in the process of cleaning them up and painting them, new discs and pads etc, then finaly i can start on the fun bit! the engine!

paddyrs

any one know were i could get a big set of brakes for my staff? will ur std cover have the power to hold the paddle ? the cover is alot to do with how much power the clutch can take.

chaffe

Does your dog not stop very well lol! i hope so mate, always thought it was to do with how the clutch friction material/plate dissepates the heat? An uprated cover would create more friction for sure but 300 lbft is maybe top limit for a standard clutch (my proposed torque level), so i thought i had better get an uprated plate just to be on the safe side

paddyrs

no she could do with stopen a bit sooner . am just after geting a clutch for my car as mine has started to slip a bit . ap racing made me one as there normal kit only dose 340 ftlb and my car is 385 ftlb i wanted a organic clutch there paddle dose 400ftlb

chaffe

i see, not too sure about the brakes mate, as for clutch, again not too sure, im just experimenting with mine to see what i can get away with. Dont even know what the diff and gearbox limitations are yet!

155lee

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youre right,it will take more than big brakes to beat a real cossie at crail!high pressure fuel lines,looks like 10mm copper pipe out of your dads van lol!

chaffe

last time i looked my engine had cosworth written on it, twice! I am paying for bits for this car as i go along, as i didnt have 4k for a "real" cosworth without re-mortgauging my house lol, plus anyone can buy a cossie, i wanted to build something different. what would you sugest making fuel lines out of then smart arse? Copper is good enough for brake pipes at 2000 psi, so im sure it will be fine at 60psi! Speak to dingbro they supplied it as fuel pipe.

woolford

nice paint job good work keep it up

155lee

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Anytime I see copper fuel pipes I think bodge.my car has them and they are in the bin already.copper is soft and compresses with pressure so I wouldn't use them.I'll have. Hydrasun make some braided hoses.I like having a real cossie as I can phone up anywhere and buy any proven performance part or ask a question and somebody will have the answer straigthaway.I prefer that nowadays to building a car from piles of bits to have something that will never be reliable

chaffe

lol, i would be bored to tears bolting together a project like that but everyone to their own! still fancy a race at crail though

m4tt274

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agree with what you have just said apart from the reliability aspect. he is using the same running gear and transmission as you only with a MORE reliable engine. the 24v never stops! the YB on the other hand! lol

155lee

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i would be bored to tears polishing paint for 2 months.
what running gear is the same?because all mine is cosworth 2wd and his gearbox is an xr 4x4/mtx box,diff is an xr item,brakes are standard.engine may be more reliable in standard form but not with a wiring loom thats home made or a turbo conversion thats made from whats lying about and bits from all sorts of cars.
as for the race,whats the point.my car has more power and an engine half the weight,a better diff so its a foregone conclusion who will win.
there are a few folk on here with 2.9 cosworth engined sierras,any folk with a turbo'd 1 with a 1/4 mile time out of interest?when i had a 2.9 cosworth saph my best ever time at crail was 15.2 and a 97 mph terminal iirc.couldnt get it moving for wheelspin as crail has a start line like a billiard ball.

BRIGSPORT

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I take it you are referring to the fact copper can be easily damaged when mounted under the car, and not by the pressure inside it?
Having a real cossie=£££'s spent on keeping them reliable, we've all been there. But a turbo v6 gives a kick different to the yb, nice and smooth.

m4tt274

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i didnt realise your car was a 2wd but compare it to a 4x4 its the same. the running gear on an xr is the same as a cossy apart from the rear beam mounts and a 26mm anti roll bar. as for his brakes he says hes got bigger discs hes thinking of putting on.
and a 15.2 is very good from a standard motor. a standard Yb is meant to do circa 15 seconds from factory, most std ones ive seen do a 15-16 second. i 24v engine is heavier than a TB, but not once you put all the intercooler, turbo and ancillaries on. i love Yb's and the 24v but i think your being very harsh. this car will no doubt be a weapon.

robrs2

Nothing wrong with copper lines.
Do you all know what brake line were for many years?
A lot of garages still replace brake line with copper as there easier to fit.

And as for damage. Ford and other fit nylon/plactic fuel line as standard. think copper is far stronger than them.

If the right stuff is use there is no problem, just dont use thin wall domestic copper pipes.