v man

epic build this mk

have you considered some nice centre locks for it

matman

amazing

where did you get the m14 studs???

M K

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Center locks would be nice but eventually I would like at least 2 sets of wheels and it would become very expensive a limiting on wheel choices,

The wheel studs can be bought of eBay

M K

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Got the car back on the wrc stands and off the dolly's for the first time in over a year

Im gonna get all the suspension on the car to double check the basics, so started to bolt up the rear link arms, rear bladed roll bar, uprights and struts etc all built up but then run out of time but this part of the build us much more enjoyable

stu21t

this car is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO good.
wish i had the money to do something like this.
i cant wait to see it at a show

you need to get the sill stands annodised black too lol

massivewangers

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Must be a nice feeling to start bolting bits on!

Are these the studs you mean, here?

M K

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Thanks Stu

The sill stands are steel soncant be anodised but can be painted black, not sure if il bother tho as they get chucked around when not in use,

John - no them studs are not the ones to use as the cossie flange doesn't allow the space for the rear nut, or it leaves it very tight for space, search eBay for vw extended wheel studs and there available in 76mm or from a firm called machine7 in 80mm or 100mm lengths

Richie.

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Even sweeter


You can get sill stands zinc'd black


Hi lift jack details please

M K

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i got this jack the gf bought me for my birthday

http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/pr...ift-trolley-ja

Twins

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nice marc

massivewangers

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Ah right. Are VW ones M14 then? What sort of nuts are you using on yours? As I'd be running Group A fitment wheels you see! What length you gone for (ooh err)?

M K

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yes mate, vw, Audi and Porsche all run M14x1.5

This is the firm i used
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vw-T2-T25-...item45f7e4e198

I don't know if they can supply longer than 76mm as i have not asked but if you wanted 80mm which is what i am likely to run on the front to accommodate the spacers then this firm does 80mm & 100mm ones

80mm
http://www.machine7.com/product.php?xProd=1221&xSec=601

100mm
http://www.machine7.com/product.php?xProd=1222&xSec=601


I have grp a M14x1.5 nuts, although i have a feeling they may be 9/16" as they are a little loose so just to be sure i am gonna order some new ones and if they are loose as well at least i will have spares lol, but if they are a tighter fit i will sell the others on as 9/16" grp 4 nuts which is what they are likely to be if not M14

As for lengths it really depends on your car/wheel offset etc, as the jwrc has massively wide arches, and the cosworth track is narrower than them i run hub centric spacers to bring the wheels out at the front and no spacers on the rear as i am spacing the driveshafts out instead,

Im not sure what car you have but if your not running any spacers and are running a 7-8mm brake bell then 76mm studs are ok,

M K

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Little bit more test fitting done tonight









Front End











Have just trial fitted it all up with random bolts and measured the lengths needed for the new 12.9 plated bolts etc

Test fitting threw up some small issues but nothing major so that's all good



Must say once again a MASSIVE MASSIVE thanks to Mark @ MK Motorsport for all the great parts and all his help so far with the building a making of the components

COCHYN

I can't get over the detail!

andy escos

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WOW LOOKS AWESOME

Fudgey

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mega

scarnny

Please tell me this isn't gonna be a trailer queen and it will get used. What are your plans for it.
Its almost looking to good to use.

Great build.

Andy...

Mark RS

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lovely mate,it will be to nice to drive.has paul linfoot got competiton in concourse next year

focus 4x4

Truely stunning mate . a real credit to you .

TimC

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Brilliant attention to detail as always Marc but I cant help but feel a tiny bit dissapointed that you didn't go proper wide track whilst you could during the build instead of having to run wide wheel spacers. I know components would of needed to be remade (TCAs, Track Rods, Driveshafts, locaton of the strut top etc etc) but by doing so you would have much more control of which part of the tyre you are steering with (scrub radius) which would improve handling.

Too many people choose an offset of wheel just to fill the arches without doing the mathematics and geometry checks to see what effects it will have on tyre contact through bump, rebound and steering.

RickDraper

This car just gets better and better.

Definitely done the right thing going for the MK parts, they look stunning.

M K

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Tim

I do wish I had started with the wrc front end but at the time i could not get the extra 3k for all the parts so had to run standard 4x4,

When Andrew built the car it was designed and all angles checked using the 4x4 set up then a 30mm spacer added to bring the wheels out, so as things have changed this will all be re checked when the car is fully built and up to full weight and if needed new parts made such as shafts/ top mounts etc so we have the widest
Possible track without spacers while keeping all angles and
Plunge etc correct

The problem is now I have changed to a wrc front set up it's changed everything so what I have to do now is fully build the car so it is at full weight so we get the correct driveshaft angles and plunge etc, set the geometry for the correct camber castor and toe an then I will see what is needed to bring the wheels out in the front arches,

The wrc uprights already moved the wheel out a fair bit so if I'm lucky I will not require any spacers but there's no way of telling now until the car is built and the geo is set but either way the limiting factor on widening the track is the top mounts and after speaking to MK about this issue we will if needed design/make new custom top mounts to move things out as much as we can but this can not be done till the end but I don't see any major issues

Thanks for all the good input and comments guys

Marc

massivewangers

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Cheers for all that Marc, that's a great help. I take it they just press into standard hubs without issue if you open up the holes? I won't be running spaces or anything, just regular Group A fitment wheels, ET33 I think they are.

Last question for now, promise Where you ordering the Grp A nuts from? They pricey?

M K

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What I done was freeze the studs for a few days, drill out the flange holes to 14.5mm then they will press in but it took about 6tonnes of pressure to get them in so long as your press can handle that it's easy

Get the nuts from Tony at touring car spares

TimC

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Glad to hear you had taken it all into consideration Marc. Hope it works out with minimal fuss. At least now once its built and you dont like the way it feels, its an area you know it can be improved upon.

Neil@FastFord

Wow! Properly fuckin' amazing Marc.....i NEED to do this when it's done....and make the snapper distracting you while i crack one out over it!! :-D

gus

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nice neil, just nice

muz

Outstanding level of detail.

BlairM

This truly is an inspirational build. Wish I had the notion in me to put this amount of attention and detail into my Fiesta.

I do fancy giving it a full rebuild just to check everything.

goldie-cortina:-)

looking good

dingla rs

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only one thing id do is change the front cradle to a tubler item rest is epic id love use wrc parts on mine but the ŁŁ it cost is unreal fair play

M K

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No problem Neil ............i mean feature it, NOT crack one out over it

He really does love fords!


Thanks mate


I must admit it has all been spending really up to this point but even though it's still gonna take the next year probably to finish at least now it's more the just laying out cash hand over fist, i can actually start to see a PROPER toy coming together

Get stuck in with your fiesta Blair, especially this time of year, least you using yours for proper racing so fair play to you



Cheers fella




Mark has spoke to me already about a steel wrc front cradle design but keeping the standard engine mounts as i don't want wrc chassis mounts, the cradle would give better geo though so see what happens

-beefy-

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tubular cardles already been made mk ,

karl made one for wenny as he was having issues with the 8.5 in from diff and steering ...



beef

andy escos

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come on big man pics please

c20tbo

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Marc,

Mark from MK has made me one, same as your saying but mine is also to use a sierra 2wd non power rack (different mounts) ask him for pic's.

c20tbo

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Beef, dont think Wenny is running an 8.5 front, ffd 7.5 same as me, but you are correct in saying the reason for this was due to steering rack issues hitting the diff, and driveshaft clearances, other than that the cradle version is not needed

c20tbo

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not needed thought unless your using big front diff

graham c

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or you mite use a rear diff as the front one

M K

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If I was to go for a steel cross member it would be one of MK's and not Karl's,

Karl's is just a tube copy with no real advantage other than space where as Mark's is also modded for better geometry set up

graham c

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pics so we can look