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Old 15-01-2010, 04:35 PM
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Like an autopsy on a dead body - investigation as to how, what and why the person died. Same thing on Martin's car with the paint - how, what and why
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Originally Posted by Mark RS
how does it work martin?
How does what work dude?
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Originally Posted by Martin-Reyland
How does what work dude?

the autospy
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I think Mark Rs wanst to know how the autopsy is carried out
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Autospy is an automatic spy!
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Originally Posted by CossieRich
Like an autopsy on a dead body - investigation as to how, what and why the person died. Same thing on Martin's car with the paint - how, what and why

cheers
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Originally Posted by CossieRich
I think Mark Rs wanst to know how the autopsy is carried out
It was carried out in a secure laboratory () and sanded down carefully to reveal the layers.
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Originally Posted by Martin-Reyland
It was carried out in a secure laboratory () and sanded down carefully to reveal the layers.
were you wearing gloves as not to corrupt the investigation

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Originally Posted by T3ORA
were you wearing gloves as not to corrupt the investigation

Yes I wore sanitised mittens with fur cuffs
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Jacko does not have to give a refund as he has offered to re do it, BUT his reputation is shot and fortunately for you Martin you only paid Ł1500 for a Ł4000 job so get your bloke to charge you Ł2500 and you have not lost anything unlike Jacko which should help you smile!
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Originally Posted by Turner RS
Jacko does not have to give a refund as he has offered to re do it, BUT his reputation is shot and fortunately for you Martin you only paid Ł1500 for a Ł4000 job so get your bloke to charge you Ł2500 and you have not lost anything unlike Jacko which should help you smile!
i dont see his reputation being shot

its only one car & only a small percentage of the planet use this site

i will still be taking my cars to him for paint & i would have thought a lot of other people will to

this thread is full of people bickering about things that have nothing to do with them

its for jacko & martin to sort
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Originally Posted by blacky.
i dont see his reputation being shot

its only one car & only a small percentage of the planet use this site

i will still be taking my cars to him for paint & i would have thought a lot of other people will to

this thread is full of people bickering about things that have nothing to do with them

its for jacko & martin to sort
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fuck me this argument about paint still going on? no offence to martin sorry if u do take offence but if this wasnt his car there wouldnt be half as big an argument about it i bet!

get over it people its not your car, martins getting on with the car and getting it sorted, and jacko has learned from his mistakes, who here hasnt made a mistake before here and then learned from it, jesus christ any more of this and im forwarding this thread to be sorted on Jeremy Bleeding Kyle!
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and the results of the lie detector test are back !!!!!



" jacko "

you are NOT the father !!!!!!!


ooooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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Originally Posted by G950KDT
fuck me this argument about paint still going on? no offence to martin sorry if u do take offence but if this wasnt his car there wouldnt be half as big an argument about it i bet!

get over it people its not your car, martins getting on with the car and getting it sorted, and jacko has learned from his mistakes, who here hasnt made a mistake before here and then learned from it, jesus christ any more of this and im forwarding this thread to be sorted on Jeremy Bleeding Kyle!




yep still going i agree with what you said i think every body should cool off & stop turning this thread to shit its martins car so lets just let him carry on with his resto & leave jacko alone he doesnt deserve this bitching & slagging every day just based on one car when he probably does 100,s every year .he has stepped upto the mark & offered to fix it what more do you people want blood .
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Originally Posted by -beefy-
and the results of the lie detector test are back !!!!!



" jacko "

you are NOT the father !!!!!!!


ooooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
im having a stab in the dark at this beefy but is that jeremy kyle .
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Old 15-01-2010, 07:00 PM
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yes andy ,


just trying to lighten the mood a little ,

soooo much negativaty on this thread atm ,

regarless of all the faults its still going to be one seriously cool car ,

i feel bad for both parties ,


shit happens ,

so will the autopsy show exactly what the issue was then ?

maybe the pics can be used to seek compensation by jacko from the paint supplier ??
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Old 15-01-2010, 07:06 PM
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Been following this thread from the start just to eventually see the end result.

I don't know either party involved and I really hope it gets sorted so that a really nice car gets finished.

Reason for my post is on page 22 of this thread (not very good with computers to add links so you'll have to go look) Jacko has typed he bare metaled everything barring the roof so why is there moonstone on the osr quarter panel or am I missing something?

And I'm not trying to stir anything up here just curious.
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Old 15-01-2010, 07:15 PM
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i realy dont understand this as if it is down to primer why have i never had a problem before

and i have the best compressor set up possible it has a chiller to condense the watter and 3 watter traps that empty automaticly
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its the plastic arch from the kit
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Old 15-01-2010, 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by blacky.
i dont see his reputation being shot

its only one car & only a small percentage of the planet use this site

i will still be taking my cars to him for paint & i would have thought a lot of other people will to

this thread is full of people bickering about things that have nothing to do with them

its for jacko & martin to sort
well said blacky wish they would sort there shit out as its getting boring,get your heads together and sort a solution out
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Been following this for a while now I used to work in a paint shop for a bit and we had this problem a couple of times in winter it was caused by the damp in the air causing moisture on the car because the boss would only let the car warm in the booth for a minimal time to warm up and not dry the car so moisture still remained on the surface and hence was painted over

The first time we had it the paint started to spot in a few days the next time it was months later the customer had the car back and had been very happy with the finish only to find about 8 months later the spot's appering on his car when we got the back in and sanded the car back you could see the spots in the base coat caused by the damp the only way to repair this was to sand all the paint of we had put on and start again (boss learnt a valuable lesson stop being a tight ass and let us use the booth for what its ment) all in the bid to save money and time but ended up doing neither.
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Originally Posted by blacky.
i dont see his reputation being shot

its only one car & only a small percentage of the planet use this site

this thread is full of people bickering about things that have nothing to do with them

its for jacko & martin to sort
100% true. I see Martins point as having a big time delay etc for his car but it was "cheap"

Same as Jacko's point in getting a great name for paint.

Hope all is sorted and asap as this Resto Room needs some updates.
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Why doen martin say it was only bare metal on the front wings and bonnet where jacko claims it was everything apart from the roof? Im martins rear quarter picture you can see moonstone?
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Originally Posted by Ollie.
Why doen martin say it was only bare metal on the front wings and bonnet where jacko claims it was everything apart from the roof? Im martins rear quarter picture you can see moonstone?
Jacko originally told me that he had gone to bare metal on the bonnet and wings he never mentioned doing other panels, hence the reason why I was unaware of this. It probably helps if this is the case as there will be less paint for the new guy to remove.

The pictures I posted were of the arch from the rear quarter and sill skirt.
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Just read through the whole thread and was expecting to see a finished rs500 at the end with loads of pics etc, you have robbed me of part of my life
What sort of facilitys was the car painted in? Ive seen this happen when a car has been painted outside a booth in a workshop where a simple fan has been used and the floor has been watered. Its not professional to slag other peoples work as things do go wrong somtimes so I say nothing. What I will say though is that I tend to use better paint than what as been used, lessonal is pony paint usally used for trade jobs where the car trader wants a silly cheap job to move the car on. Glausrit is meant to be ok but I would still not use it though as I believe there are better paints out there, if I had painted the car I would have maybe gone base and clear or used a yacht paint called Awlgrip, super high quality, durable and I have never seen a direct gloss shine so much. I painted this yesterday
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I know its only a camera phone image but trust me this stuff is the bollocks.
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Originally Posted by G950KDT
fuck me this argument about paint still going on? no offence to martin sorry if u do take offence but if this wasnt his car there wouldnt be half as big an argument about it i bet!

get over it people its not your car, martins getting on with the car and getting it sorted, and jacko has learned from his mistakes, who here hasnt made a mistake before here and then learned from it, jesus christ any more of this and im forwarding this thread to be sorted on Jeremy Bleeding Kyle!
well said ! lol ive just got my S1 back from the body shop and although its not anywhere near as bad as this theres still lil bits thats piss me off.. bummer, but on with the rebuild . GO GO GO ! lol

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any updates martin

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People only listen to the bad things that happen.I know jacko has done some cracking paint jobs in the past.
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Shit happens, its how you deal with it that matters
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im sure martin feels, a whole lot batter knowing that glen ,



unfortunately sometimes it dosent take much to harm a rep , and sometimes once the damage is done it cant be undone ,

if martin and jacko have came to an agreement over comepensation then they can draw a line under it and move on ,


but like most things with this site , this situation will be brought up when anyone asks for recommendations on blueoval garages , just as positve comments will now doubt get mentioned ,


its the olds saying of " shit tends to stick "


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Originally Posted by rs250nut
Just read through the whole thread and was expecting to see a finished rs500 at the end with loads of pics etc, you have robbed me of part of my life
What sort of facilitys was the car painted in? Ive seen this happen when a car has been painted outside a booth in a workshop where a simple fan has been used and the floor has been watered. Its not professional to slag other peoples work as things do go wrong somtimes so I say nothing. What I will say though is that I tend to use better paint than what as been used, lessonal is pony paint usally used for trade jobs where the car trader wants a silly cheap job to move the car on. Glausrit is meant to be ok but I would still not use it though as I believe there are better paints out there, if I had painted the car I would have maybe gone base and clear or used a yacht paint called Awlgrip, super high quality, durable and I have never seen a direct gloss shine so much. I painted this yesterday


I know its only a camera phone image but trust me this stuff is the bollocks.
If you are a good painter as you claim you are it would to me be quite obvious why you WOULDNT go clear over base
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i hope he feels better too.
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Wow, a lot of diluded, clueless replies all through this thread from people who want to jump on the band wagon. I've seen loads of jobs from Jacko, I don't even know the man on a personal or professional stand point, but the amount of jobs I've seen done by his hand is perfection. Who cares if he's had a few cock ups through his own fault or because of the materials used, sh*t happens...if he owns up to it then what's the big deal? It just so happens its a car that's getting a lotta views on this forum, no biggy is it?!
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Not going to get in to the debate of paint as to be perfectly honest my painting skills with cars goes as far as Halfords rattle cans for small bits of trim!

However, love the first pics of the 3 RS500s at your wedding, very nice indeed and do hope this gets rolling soon as black is my fav colour for the RS500 and looking forward to seeing this finished on here, is it going to stay subtle as in looking stock part from the wheels then?
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Originally Posted by COCHYN
sh*t happens...if he owns up to it then what's the big deal? It just so happens its a car that's getting a lotta views on this forum, no biggy is it?!
But this Forum is the centre of the universe you must know that, whats said on here will be worldwide news tomorrow. At least 50 different people have replied on this Thread & thats a large percentage of the worlds population of 4 billion. . If your companies reputation is ruined or you are dependant on this site for your income then can i suggest you have a business model that needs to be rectified.
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But this Forum is the centre of the universe you must know that, whats said on here will be worldwide news tomorrow. At least 50 different people have replied on this Thread & thats a large percentage of the worlds population of 4 billion. . If your companies reputation is ruined or you are dependant on this site for your income then can i suggest you have a business model that needs to be rectified.
with your level of maths involved in things rod, you have just deducted 2 and a bit BILLION people from the planets population, thus rendering ALL your figures wrong on EVERY subject EVER
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Originally Posted by -beefy-

unfortunately sometimes it dosent take much to harm a rep , and sometimes once the damage is done it cant be undone ,

if martin and jacko have came to an agreement over comepensation then they can draw a line under it and move on ,




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Compensation???? Nothing whatsoever has been offered or forthcoming!

Progress so far ....

The rear beam, shocks and springs are all fitted as are the fuel lines.. Anyone got an Escos diff mount I can buy??

Hopefully this week will see the engine and front suspension installed.

Chris the paint guy has started stripping the front bumper, it ooks like its going to be a hard slog as the black paint peels off in strips but under that there is what appears to be polyester spray filler that seems to be half a mm thick in places :-(

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updates martin? whats the next plan running gear wise then?
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