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Old 27-04-2009, 08:15 PM
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Saw you at Combe, looked like you were going well, I even got a picture of ya:

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Originally Posted by Chip
Will bear it in mind, im in no rush to change the engine though TBH, the point of this car is to have something cheap and simple that doesnt take too much of my time away from my other projects and I can just chuck it round a track and not be too bothered about being the fastest, instead of going out in Rob's astra and playing with martin hadland, I had just as much fun playing with dougie's 2.0 16v cavalier and neil in the fast ford puma.
Its all relative
No worries, just thought i'd let you know in case you're ever stuck and need an engine. They always seemed to have a fair few 1.816V 172/182 engines etc sitting there
Old 28-04-2009, 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by mattxr3i
Saw you at Combe, looked like you were going well, I even got a picture of ya:
Thanks


That 200sx was a right pain on that corner, massively held me up in the bend, then when I went to overtake him, he was far quicker than me on the straight, got past him in the end though, it just took a bit of work
Old 28-04-2009, 04:32 PM
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89Xr2, thanks for the tip
Old 29-04-2009, 09:23 AM
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Looks like fun chip! i want a track car
Old 29-04-2009, 09:28 AM
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Well as shown, they dont have to be expensive to be good fun

Mine owes me about 500 quid for the car itself including repairing it and the seats/harnesses
Only thing on top of that was the tyres, extra wheels and tax, about another 500 quid.

So about a grand or so all in ready to trackday
Old 29-04-2009, 09:38 AM
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Trouble is i dont have a grand to spunk of a track car and if it breaks i cant fix it myself

Ill just come and have a go in yours when you are at woodbridge next
Old 29-04-2009, 09:41 AM
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LOL

Sadly mate, I cant see me ever bothering to take the clio that far, its about a 10 hour round trip from me which is a bit much just for an airfield day.
Old 29-04-2009, 09:44 AM
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Is it really, i didnt relise it was that much of a treck! Thats a shame
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Old 29-04-2009, 10:11 AM
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defianately looks like fun!
Old 29-04-2009, 10:28 AM
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It is, surprisingly so

I was worried as im obviously used to things with several times the power that i would find it boring, but it really wasnt.
Old 29-04-2009, 10:36 AM
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Yeah my girlfriend has got a clio and they are really fun to drive!

What bhp are they 130ish?
Old 29-04-2009, 10:40 AM
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Yeah about that.

I was able to keep pace with slightly more powerful cars on the straights though, just cause it doesnt weigh a lot, especially now its all stripped out.

If I keep it longer term I will add some more power, but Ive got my mini to do soon and once that is finished I'll probably just get rid of the clio as there wont be any point owning both really.
although that said, I might just keep the clio for doing scatters and 12 cars as its even more fun down a country lane than it is on track, as it doesnt feel underwpoered at all on a muddy b road!
Old 29-04-2009, 11:08 AM
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top track toy this how is it round the track
Old 29-04-2009, 12:33 PM
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Its absolutely spot on mate.

The brakes you have to be a little less agressive with than if they were massive otherwise you can put too much heat into them, but they still work ok, and the handling really is superb, its hard to remember when driving it how little it cost.

If I spend another grand on it next year, on a set of 406 coupe brakes and a 172 engine and box, I think it will surprise the fuck out of most people.

although Im kind of thinking I need to stick to the original plan of just leave it alone and to crack on with my mini instead.
Old 29-04-2009, 12:35 PM
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yes, you do :P

Keep it cheap and disposable and get the mini sorted out!

Hows the calibra plans coming along?
Old 29-04-2009, 12:41 PM
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Calibra is at specky's awaiting a V6 and is going to be my tow car for the nova.
The V8 is going into an omega instead, but needs workshop finished first, we have road scalpings and a digger hopefully arriving this weekend so we can shore up the ground and crack on with the building work, so currently its looking reasonable the workshop will be done this summer allowing me to do the omega and/or mini this winter.
Old 29-04-2009, 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Chip
Calibra is at specky's awaiting a V6 and is going to be my tow car for the nova.
The V8 is going into an omega instead, but needs workshop finished first, we have road scalpings and a digger hopefully arriving this weekend so we can shore up the ground and crack on with the building work, so currently its looking reasonable the workshop will be done this summer allowing me to do the omega and/or mini this winter.
Yeah, was aware of the V6 plans, just not how far they were along the road. Specky got an engine? That will be a nice car!

Workshop sounds good,Ive got all that to come this autumn
Old 29-04-2009, 01:21 PM
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Yeah got the engine, specky has found a set of 3.0 cams for it, only thing holding it up currently is that the oil pump was damaged when the breakers removed the engine from the car, and I cant find one at the moment (not buying a new one, would cost as much as the engine did)

Dougie is meant to be sorting one out, so might give him a nudge by email actually while I think of it!
Old 31-08-2009, 12:02 AM
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Got a Clio Williams lump for it now.

Have ripped the old engine out, if the weather is good tomorrow I'll swap over all the ancilleries and then hopefully fit the new lump on tuesday.

Old 31-08-2009, 08:46 AM
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oooh looks good, will this be done before Combe?!
Old 31-08-2009, 10:41 AM
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Hoping it will, ive got till tomorrow off to try and get it sorted, problem I have at the moment is I havent got a cambelt for it and it needs to be done before the engine goes in as you cant really do it in the car, so going to depend how early tomorrow morning I can get hold of one.
Also depends on if the engine is any good or not of course, as I havent heard it running so dont know if I have bought a good one or not yet!
Old 01-09-2009, 04:58 PM
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New engine is sat in now although not plumbed or wired or properly bolted up yet as the heavens opened and the bit of tarp we were working under just wasnt enough to keep the rain out so we've packed in for the day a couple of hours early (going out for a meal later for a bird's birthday so was going to have to stop by about 7 anyway to get cleaned up).

Have also finished mocking up the new brake mounting brackets for my pikey big brake conversion, its using 406 1.8 16v calipers, some home made brackets and a set of 306 gti-6 283mm vented disks, not positive its going to work yet as havent got the disks and have just been working off where I think they'll sit, but should be ok.

Costing 64 quid in total for the big brake conversion, so if it doesnt work, never mind.

Got some work to do during the days this week but will hopefully get some time in the evenings to work on it as at least for once im not working 200 miles away from home.
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I have 4 of those gold wheels if your interested.
Old 02-09-2009, 06:21 PM
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PM details and price please mate.
Old 04-09-2009, 10:19 PM
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Williams engine is in and running now, its great, SO much nicer power delivery than the peaky 1.8 (mine allegedly had cams so that probably made it worse)

"New" (135K, lol) gearbox works too, hoping that my third attempt to do combe in the clio will be the first one that doesnt kill a box!

Brakes are getting there, have made up some brackets to mount some pug 283 disks, its pulling a bit to one side on the test drive I just got in from, but hoping that just needs bleeding a bit better as I was in a rush when I did it, so will do so in the morning before I leave for combe

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Old 05-09-2009, 09:03 PM
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Well it took a right beating today!

Engine was pulling far better than the old valver motor, and the gearbox is still in one piece unlike the last 2 trackdays I did in it where I kill one both times.

My pikey homemade big brakes worked well and pulled up nice and straight, but I suffered a bit of fade as the only pads I could find at the last minute were standard road ones.

Overall though, had a cracking day out, makes the last week of effort doing the engine conversion, new box, brake conversion all seem worthwhile


Couple of pics of it in action:






TRIPOD!

LOL
Old 05-09-2009, 09:20 PM
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406 brakes?

could you explain why these please

looks the absolute bollocks, like a terrior cocking its leg
Old 05-09-2009, 09:24 PM
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The reason for 406 brakes, is my mate had some 406 calipers lieing around, and we thought it might be fun to try and fit them to the clio with some big disks, so I mocked up some wooden brackets, found a disk that was the right size, and got the brackets made in steel.
Total cost of conversion 74 quid
Old 05-09-2009, 09:26 PM
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ow ok, just wondered if it was for a spercific (sp ) reason

proper bargin then
Old 05-09-2009, 09:32 PM
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Well, being the only ones I got given free at the last minute is specific enough, lol

Wish I had used calibra ones now though, as I have spare pads for those, lol
Old 05-09-2009, 09:39 PM
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Nice project there got the bug myself for a track day car
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lol nice tripod'ing, is it me or have you bent the car and it's popping the sunroof out?

good going though

2 pics for you too


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Awesome tripod pics there Chip.

I bet a complete legend took them.

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Spikey, the sunrood is 2mm perspex, it flaps in the wind even in a straight line, lol
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Looks like fun on track in that, well done.
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Originally Posted by Minirotty
Looks like fun on track in that, well done.
Its a right laugh, and cause the suspension is still pretty compliant you can properly clip the curbs on the chicanes, I'll try and get a video up later showing how much so
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Told you the engine was a good one! looks like your having fun with it
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I wish you had told me a fucking valver starter motor doesnt fit it though when you said to use my ancilleries, it would have saved me a day of my life when I turned it over and it chewed up the ring gear and had to take it out and fit a new bloody flywheel, lol

Well pleased with the engine though mate

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