BEEFY'S s1 cos- tues 1-5-2012 Project now for sale , breaking -
24-10-2011, 06:51 PM
#4161
Lol, but not directly i read this a while ago and i guess wiki was probably based on it http://www.amazon.com/Competition-Car-Suspension-Practical-Handbook/dp/1844253287/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1319471233&sr=8-3
But perhaps if you had read it first you wouldn't make wrong statements like this
Doesn't really matter where you learn things chap, just that you've learnt them and they are correct.
If you want to quote something text book go ahead, i won't call you out, and make you sound a bell end afterwards either.
Rob,
But perhaps if you had read it first you wouldn't make wrong statements like this
Doesn't really matter where you learn things chap, just that you've learnt them and they are correct.
If you want to quote something text book go ahead, i won't call you out, and make you sound a bell end afterwards either.
Rob,
obviously the book and wiki quotes were copied alike 1 from the other
Apologies if you think i was trying to make you look like a bell, i know pretty much nothing about suspension so would definitely not be trying to out smart anyone with my knowledge lol
Seems like your getting all the right help now Beefy
24-10-2011, 07:02 PM
#4162
i wasn't attempting to make you sound a bell end, 
Beef: Tbh I think you should see how it drives and decide if things need changing later buddy, much simpler than wading through the last 2 pages of opinion, all said and done yours is the only one that counts.
24-10-2011, 07:27 PM
#4163
im not raising the shock towers mate, ainy higher and they will sit up out the boot lol , anyway much eaiser and less painful to just order shorter coilovers , cost is the same
drop me a pm re the fuel tank fella , it all baffled ect ???
i take all opinons as constructive mark , it take a hell of alot for me to spit me dummy and fall out with folk , its an open forum after all .
only thing i would say is mark the front end is fully adjustable barring the the the mount for the steering rack ...
eccentric top mounts, adj tca's , compression struts , even the tubular crossmember could be modded to reposition the rack if i needed to ??
I admit i totally wrote that wrong about the bump steer so hands up but calm down chap, i wasn't attempting to make you sound a bell end,
obviously the book and wiki quotes were copied alike 1 from the other
Apologies if you think i was trying to make you look like a bell, i know pretty much nothing about suspension so would definitely not be trying to out smart anyone with my knowledge lol
Seems like your getting all the right help now Beefy
obviously the book and wiki quotes were copied alike 1 from the other
Apologies if you think i was trying to make you look like a bell, i know pretty much nothing about suspension so would definitely not be trying to out smart anyone with my knowledge lol
Seems like your getting all the right help now Beefy
what you southerners like ehhh ??
tis only banter fella and i appriceate the input , wherever you get it from lol ,
No harm done then, good of you to point out you didn't intend it as an insult.
Beef: Tbh I think you should see how it drives and decide if things need changing later buddy, much simpler than wading through the last 2 pages of opinion, all said and done yours is the only one that counts.
Beef: Tbh I think you should see how it drives and decide if things need changing later buddy, much simpler than wading through the last 2 pages of opinion, all said and done yours is the only one that counts.
seems like thats my best option at this point rob ,
theres lots of speculation on what will and wont work , and granted alot of its backed up by science and proven geomotry 101 rules ect ... but until its rolling around under its own steam ill never know
after all this is only ever going to be a road car, thes fucking no way im putting it near a race track !!!!
love beef
24-10-2011, 07:44 PM
#4165
im not raising the shock towers mate, ainy higher and they will sit up out the boot lol , anyway much eaiser and less painful to just order shorter coilovers , cost is the same
drop me a pm re the fuel tank fella , it all baffled ect ???
i take all opinons as constructive mark , it take a hell of alot for me to spit me dummy and fall out with folk , its an open forum after all .
only thing i would say is mark the front end is fully adjustable barring the the the mount for the steering rack ...
eccentric top mounts, adj tca's , compression struts , even the tubular crossmember could be modded to reposition the rack if i needed to ??
what you southerners like ehhh ??
tis only banter fella and i appriceate the input , wherever you get it from lol ,
seems like thats my best option at this point rob ,
theres lots of speculation on what will and wont work , and granted alot of its backed up by science and proven geomotry 101 rules ect ... but until its rolling around under its own steam ill never know
after all this is only ever going to be a road car, thes fucking no way im putting it near a race track !!!!
love beef
drop me a pm re the fuel tank fella , it all baffled ect ???
i take all opinons as constructive mark , it take a hell of alot for me to spit me dummy and fall out with folk , its an open forum after all .
only thing i would say is mark the front end is fully adjustable barring the the the mount for the steering rack ...
eccentric top mounts, adj tca's , compression struts , even the tubular crossmember could be modded to reposition the rack if i needed to ??
what you southerners like ehhh ??
tis only banter fella and i appriceate the input , wherever you get it from lol ,
seems like thats my best option at this point rob ,
theres lots of speculation on what will and wont work , and granted alot of its backed up by science and proven geomotry 101 rules ect ... but until its rolling around under its own steam ill never know
after all this is only ever going to be a road car, thes fucking no way im putting it near a race track !!!!
love beef
hi mate nice one ,the things that need moving are not ,ie steering arms ,pivot point for uprights were tcas bolt ,dont move the rack on its own that will create even more bump steer ,if your making a front cross member see if you can lift the whole assembly so you restore tca angle from lowering car ,but i think you have heard enough now lol ,just build it and enjoy like you say its not a race car ,at the end of the day it will look very good
mark
Last edited by MK MOTORSPORT; 25-10-2011 at 05:11 AM.
25-10-2011, 01:19 PM
#4168
wait till its built then get a professional to set up what you have and work from there.
all this complex suspension talk is all very well, and if it were race or track car is essential to achieve the optimum handling.
however beefy has said this is a fun road car toy. It doesnt need to meet its maximum handling potential. It needs to be safe and handle well enough to be a rewarding B road blaster. I suspect unless hes made some massive critical errors, that a good set up and the adjustability he has will enable him to achieve that.
all this complex suspension talk is all very well, and if it were race or track car is essential to achieve the optimum handling.
however beefy has said this is a fun road car toy. It doesnt need to meet its maximum handling potential. It needs to be safe and handle well enough to be a rewarding B road blaster. I suspect unless hes made some massive critical errors, that a good set up and the adjustability he has will enable him to achieve that.
25-10-2011, 02:21 PM
#4169
Advanced PassionFord User
Crack on beefy. As we talked about a long time ago. Get the wheels on then go from there. Unless you can find some suspension software it's just guess work.
So see how it goes.
So see how it goes.
25-10-2011, 07:21 PM
#4171
what i don't get is that the cars still in the building stage and yet everyone has decided that it's not going to handle
if the suspension has been built with maximum adjustability then shouldn't that be enough to get it working correctly?
if the suspension has been built with maximum adjustability then shouldn't that be enough to get it working correctly?
25-10-2011, 08:05 PM
#4172
wait till its built then get a professional to set up what you have and work from there.
all this complex suspension talk is all very well, and if it were race or track car is essential to achieve the optimum handling.
however beefy has said this is a fun road car toy. It doesnt need to meet its maximum handling potential. It needs to be safe and handle well enough to be a rewarding B road blaster. I suspect unless hes made some massive critical errors, that a good set up and the adjustability he has will enable him to achieve that.
all this complex suspension talk is all very well, and if it were race or track car is essential to achieve the optimum handling.
however beefy has said this is a fun road car toy. It doesnt need to meet its maximum handling potential. It needs to be safe and handle well enough to be a rewarding B road blaster. I suspect unless hes made some massive critical errors, that a good set up and the adjustability he has will enable him to achieve that.
But yea, get it done then sort the problems out once you know what they actually are rather than guessing sound like a good plan....
Can't wait for the next batch of photos
02-11-2011, 08:26 PM
#4178
not really , got outbid on a set of rims, misread the finish time lol
hes got another set fin friday , I WILL BE WINNING THEM !!!
hopefully im taking the wiring loom to spesh on sat when we get bk from rufforth sat am give it a once over and some mods before fitting
them im going to take off the bonnet to allow access to mock up parts and hopefully make a start on brake master cylinder wipers ect ect ,
hes got another set fin friday , I WILL BE WINNING THEM !!!
hopefully im taking the wiring loom to spesh on sat when we get bk from rufforth sat am give it a once over and some mods before fitting
them im going to take off the bonnet to allow access to mock up parts and hopefully make a start on brake master cylinder wipers ect ect ,
02-11-2011, 08:45 PM
#4180
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09-11-2011, 07:44 PM
#4186
evening all
well the postie payed us a visit today
and inside the boxxes ??
" whats that daddy ???? "
that would be the cossies bbs ch replica wheels niamh !!
9 inch wide rears
" dad i got a better use for that !!!! "
upon asking for it back !
another few piccys
1 happy daddy lol
will be taking them over to the car to work out the shock lengths and link arm lengths at the weekend with a bit of luck ,
upon trying to explain to niamh how much these mean to me ................................
ohh the joys of parenthood lol !!
update to follow at the weekend folks !!!
beef
well the postie payed us a visit today
and inside the boxxes ??
" whats that daddy ???? "
that would be the cossies bbs ch replica wheels niamh !!
9 inch wide rears
" dad i got a better use for that !!!! "
upon asking for it back !
another few piccys
1 happy daddy lol
will be taking them over to the car to work out the shock lengths and link arm lengths at the weekend with a bit of luck ,
upon trying to explain to niamh how much these mean to me ................................
ohh the joys of parenthood lol !!
update to follow at the weekend folks !!!
beef
10-11-2011, 05:56 PM
#4199
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