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Old 25-06-2008, 05:01 PM
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I'm tempted by twin turbo I do admit

However, A supercharger would be awesome I rekkon
Old 25-06-2008, 05:02 PM
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Supercharger would be better IMO.
Old 25-06-2008, 05:05 PM
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True Radders

As per msn
Old 25-06-2008, 05:46 PM
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you need the headers from a V8 sherpa/convoy pal, tubular and very narrow, the P6 also has a short crank nose and short water pump if you needed to know
Old 25-06-2008, 05:49 PM
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Cheers for the info on the P6 crank nose and pump.

Ideally I could do with some "block hugger" headers......
Old 25-06-2008, 05:56 PM
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it s the front pulley onto the crank thats shallower than most all others.
Old 26-06-2008, 09:47 AM
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Thought so - Having said that, I will be chopping the nose off the water pump as I won't be using the viscous fan - going for an electric fan instead, so hopefully won't need to start investing in shot pumps and pulleys etc etc

Altho I do need to invest in a decent impact driver............
Old 26-06-2008, 12:21 PM
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I have a couple of Eaton superchargers I need shot of....
Old 26-06-2008, 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Jamz
I have a couple of Eaton superchargers I need shot of....
PM on its way
Old 26-06-2008, 05:45 PM
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Another day another update.

Even with the absolutely torrential downpours (anyone get a feeling of de-ja-vous?). Decided to drop the oil on both the engines and have a check the bottom ends - both looked good, but the engine from an SD1 when drained, the oil stunk of petrol - so that engine was chucked in the corner The disco engine will be used instead.

So the task was on to swap the bottom of the engines over - sump, windage plates, baffles and pickups - this was a major drain to do but luckily I have an engine stand and a crane so it wasn't too much hassle

I also bought a new toy to help with general spannering - a Clarke Cordless 24v Impact Driver - Ł83 from Machine Mart and it comes with 2 batteries that and a 1-hour fast charger I also bought a new vice as my old one exploded and fell in half after being tightened too much










Also notice that the Disco engine is lower comp than the SD1 unit - the SD1 is 9.5:1 the Disco unit is 8.13:1 - anyone for boost?



And my AP 6 padel clutch turned up too





In order to fit the disco engine to the SD1 box, the input shaft bearing needed to be changed - this is an easy operation - just bray the shit out of the soft bronze bearing and pull it out then gentally tap the new one home - easy done.

Old:



New:




Now to get the longer release bearing as the one that is in is too short and doesn't provide enough fore/aft movement for this clutch

Happy times tho
Old 26-06-2008, 07:55 PM
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Looking good.

Is the impact driver any good? I've been toying with the idea of getting one for a while.
Old 26-06-2008, 08:00 PM
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Its absolutely fantastic - Makes me wish I had gotten one sooner. It cracked the crank nose bolts off both my engines in seconds, an essential bit of kit IMHO
Old 26-06-2008, 08:43 PM
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Wow, I don't come on here much anymore so I've only just seen this. Have to say, your skills amaze me Gracie! I can never forgive you for not offering to teach me about building cars

Best of luck going forward and big up the V8 power
Old 26-06-2008, 11:43 PM
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Defo put some form of blower on
Old 26-06-2008, 11:52 PM
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If you dont turbocharger / supercharger that with that CR then frankly you are gay!
no, hang on, that doesnt work, you're STRAIGHT if you dont go forced induction, a man's man would want boost and lots of it
Old 27-06-2008, 02:16 PM
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Chipper - I have a couple of turbos sat here doing nothing

Should i go one big turbo fed by both banks or a couple of small ones........
Old 27-06-2008, 03:30 PM
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It depnds, would you prefer a spit roast with two small ones or just get done by a proper big one?

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Old 27-06-2008, 04:52 PM
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paul ia have a impact wrench for sale as powerful as the snap on one for Ł50 doh
Old 27-06-2008, 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by lead_foot
It depnds, would you prefer a spit roast with two small ones or just get done by a proper big one?
proper big one for Paul then
Old 27-06-2008, 11:48 PM
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Rover V8s sound the bollocks!
Discovery engine will be a 3.9 litre, good engine to get torgue from, parts are stupidly cheap, pick up a landrover mag and have a look at the suppliers price lists, makes you cry at how cheap they are.

Good to break the mould with the car, dash is smart but lightweight, and a good cheap fun car to rag around in,

top work
Old 03-07-2008, 02:52 PM
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My apologies - the engine is from a RR Classic so definately a 3.5

Anyway, Nice little update for a thursday afternoon.

Decided to get myself out of my sick bed (bloody Noro Virus ) and get on with a bit of work on the track car.

Started by doing a final fitting the chosen engine and gave it a new filter and a drinki of oil



Now the engine is in place, I can concentrate on putting the bits I want onto it - in this case a lovely adjustable 36:1 toothed pully, Crank sensor bracket and sensor

Bracket went on first ready for final adjustment.




Then the main pully was removed and split to allow the 36:1 wheel to be fitted to it. Perfect fit - left slightly loose to allow addjustment so that the 5th tooth before the missing tooth is in the center of the crank sensor.




Perfect fit. and with a slight adjustment and tightening of all the nuts and bolts, the wheel, sensor and bracket are positioned perfectly, with the sensor head being 0.75mm from the toothed wheel




A nice closeup picture from under the engine showing the 5th "tooth" and the sensor head alignment




Once all that was done, I could then fit my heat proof clutch hydraulic pipe - this cost me Ł25 to have made up at a local hydraulic specialst - the hose is heat proof rubber compound with braided inner and then some fancy chemical/oil resistant pipe for the fluid to travel in - total internal diameter is 5mm - just like the original BMW pipework was




Not much left to do now really - A quick list of work in no particular order.

Fit suspension
Fit brakes
Fit new tyres/wheels
Get propshaft made
Relocate battery to boot
Make engine wiring loom and install MS2 ECU other bits (the wiring loom is
in progress as we speak)
Refit front of car/radiator
Buy some road tax and testdrive

Hopefully I will have it done in good time before the trip to the 'Ring in August
Old 03-07-2008, 03:52 PM
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6 weeks to go,,,,
Old 03-07-2008, 03:56 PM
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Loads of time

The E39 only has to have thhe Brembo's refitted and I can take that if all else fails
Old 03-07-2008, 04:31 PM
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I'm very impressed. Wish I had the skills and knowledge to do something like this. The inside is fantastic, looks proper function over form. As in, everything you need, nothing you dont.

I can see the budget being risen when you track it though, as you will probably pick faults. A little adjustment here, etc, lol.

Benni.
Old 06-07-2008, 08:45 PM
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Read every page of this while sat inside waiting for the rain to stop here in Atlanta. Great work and very neat, quick work too!

As others said, wouldnt go with the spoiler and a question r.e the cage that isnt going in, don't they have to conform to a certain standard for track use? We have to use approved ones or built by approved installers for competition.

Awesome work though and interior gauges/fuses/panelling looks the goods
Old 07-07-2008, 04:21 PM
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Another day another little update

Mainly a wiring job again this one - the Rover V8 came with a loom, it was useless. So an order to Ryan for the multiplugs I needed was soon made and they arrived ready for me to crack on with making the loom.

A few snaps of the loom being fitted etc.

Loom laying on the engine to check to make sure all my measurements were spot on



Once I was hapy with that, I cable tied it down and plugged into all the engine sensors etc (not very technical way of doing it, but it will surfice for now)



Loom secured and showing the plenumn which has had an intake air temp sensor fitted.




Making a mounting for the EDIS-8 wasted spark triggor module




And the ECU mounted in position - easy access to hook it upto the laptop etc etc




The only thing left to do with the loom is fit some convoluted tubing when it arrives to keep it fresh and happy and keep all the wires together
Old 07-07-2008, 04:34 PM
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Looking Good Paul Well Done
Old 07-07-2008, 04:45 PM
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How cool is this. Nice one Paul
Old 08-07-2008, 10:30 AM
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Top Work.

Reading through the whole threads makes everything sound so straightforward like a BMW was meant to have a RV8 fitted from factory lol.

Good stuff
Old 16-07-2008, 10:58 AM
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Great work Paul, can't wait to see the finished vehicle. If you need a spare M3 road wheel I've got one you can have for your project.

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Old 16-07-2008, 11:05 AM
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Cheers Stu - that is a very kind offer - which I may well take you up on

Another update is indeed due, due to being ill, working, and other commitments, like fixing the E39 after it popped an engine mount I havn't done much, but today I have spent a small fortune on nice things for the car - enough to actually have the engine running sometime in the next week or so - hopefully

Anyway, I'm off to play
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A long read but worth it, the 318 boot badge & V8 burble are gonna cause a few raised eyebrows once it's on the road
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C'mon. update time.
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I've not had no time at all to do anything on the track car

New car for my daily drive and the like, work, personal life, and other stuff has put the track car on the back burner for the moment.

But one small glimmer of hope is that my wiring loom is perfect as I have had the ECU plugged in and the laptop connected and done a test of the system - all is excellent it would seem.

I'll get round to doing some more soon enough
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Im a bit confused why you going to loads of effort to fit an engine that wont even perform as well as a stock E36 325 engine to be honest mate?
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Originally Posted by Stavros
Im a bit confused why you going to loads of effort to fit an engine that wont even perform as well as a stock E36 325 engine to be honest mate?
didn't you see the abuse carlo and someone else got above for questioning the engine?
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Originally Posted by Lambchop
didn't you see the abuse carlo and someone else got above for questioning the engine?
Nope, but I do know its the suckiest V8 ever made, and more expensive than good ones too.
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Anyone know if Gracey finished this in time for the ring?
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Originally Posted by Lee_R21Turbo
Anyone know if Gracey finished this in time for the ring?
Spoke to my brother who went over with Alex to the ring with them and im sure he said Paul took an L200?


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