Gary's Evo - 15-09-08 - Update!!!
06-07-2007, 10:22 PM
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Christian - come on mate - evo cams aren't bad to change - not like they need bearings or shims or anything - come on - lots of dyno plots 
Or maybe something with around 320 duration and 12mm lift
Or maybe something with around 320 duration and 12mm lift
20-09-2007, 08:34 PM
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Well, after some more changes (Cams etc) the EVO is finally back running again. Early signs are promising, the map is lean, which probably means it's flowing more air. We just need to find some time to map it amongst being busy beyond belief.
Also, it looks like the 1000cc Injectors are close to their limit!!
Hopefully within the next week we should be in a position to get it mapped. Watch this space.
Also, it looks like the 1000cc Injectors are close to their limit!!
Hopefully within the next week we should be in a position to get it mapped. Watch this space.
22-09-2007, 02:49 PM
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Well, the Evo has just had a quick map (we haven't fitted the 4-bar MAP sensor yet), so are only running 1.8 bar, as you can see from the third graph.......
Estimated Flywheel Power vs Flywheel Torque.....
Power @ Wheels vs Tractive Effort (raw Torque)
Power @ Wheels vs Boost
People do run these to 2.2 bar, but we won't know whether or not this is beneficial until we get round to fitting the 4-bar and sorting the map out.
Either way, the power is great compared to other similarly spec'd cars running more boost.
Estimated Flywheel Power vs Flywheel Torque.....
Power @ Wheels vs Tractive Effort (raw Torque)
Power @ Wheels vs Boost
People do run these to 2.2 bar, but we won't know whether or not this is beneficial until we get round to fitting the 4-bar and sorting the map out.
Either way, the power is great compared to other similarly spec'd cars running more boost.
22-09-2007, 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Kevin Atkins
I run 2.5 bar on a 3bar map sensor................................no probs there.
a, as you have to run the same line at 2 bar as you do for 2.5 and
b, with motec it can fuel cut for safety if boost goes above a preset limit,which you can do if you running map sensor flat out
thats not to say it cant be done
14-10-2007, 08:06 PM
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so going to buy one of these when i qualify 
couple of questions, was gary's a standard FR? Not a FQ-340 or anything? If so what was the safe limit of it power wise before you decided to do this rebuild?
cheers, pete
couple of questions, was gary's a standard FR? Not a FQ-340 or anything? If so what was the safe limit of it power wise before you decided to do this rebuild?
cheers, pete
31-10-2007, 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by peteh
that a reliable power christian, on motec of course
may seem obvious but the 350-380bhp, that with a different turbo?
may seem obvious but the 350-380bhp, that with a different turbo?
Some people have managed to get just over 400bhp with larger turbo's etc, but you really are pushing the limits of the standard rods and pistons!"
31-10-2007, 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Kevin Atkins
I run 2.5 bar on a 3bar map sensor................................no probs there.
its a 4.4bar mapsensor 
.Mark
31-10-2007, 07:15 PM
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Aaaah, since this has been bumped to the top, I might aswell give you an update.
Not sure if this has been mentioned elsewhere on the thread, but Gary's Evo was fitted with an Exedy Compe-R Lightweight Twin-Plate clutch a while back. It an awesome clutch, featuring a lightweight, low-inertia Flywheel and unsprung Paddle-style plates. However, we have reason to believe that 650bhp/550lb/ft may be its limit, due to other peoples experiences. So, whilst it is still very new (it's only done about 500 miles), we opted for a replacement.
Enter, Exedy Carbon-R Lightweight Triple-Plate clutch!!
Exedy own the patent to the push-pull Clutch conversion, so are the only ones to have the system that they do, with no conversion assembly required, also, this clutch has what they call SX Coat, which is the black coating seen on the metal plates. Ordinary Carbon Twin/Triple plate clutches require extensive and very fussy running in, they also need warming up each time you use them. The SX Coat allows you to fit the clutch and use it immediately with none of that messing around.
What do you think?
Incidentally, the Compe-R is now for sale. I will post it in the For Sale section on here incase any of the PassionEvo owners want a serious clutch. These are around Ł1400 new.
I don't even want to tell you what the Carbon-R cost!! 
Oh, the joys of 650bhp.
Now, wheres the rest of the boost.
Not sure if this has been mentioned elsewhere on the thread, but Gary's Evo was fitted with an Exedy Compe-R Lightweight Twin-Plate clutch a while back. It an awesome clutch, featuring a lightweight, low-inertia Flywheel and unsprung Paddle-style plates. However, we have reason to believe that 650bhp/550lb/ft may be its limit, due to other peoples experiences. So, whilst it is still very new (it's only done about 500 miles), we opted for a replacement.
Enter, Exedy Carbon-R Lightweight Triple-Plate clutch!!
Exedy own the patent to the push-pull Clutch conversion, so are the only ones to have the system that they do, with no conversion assembly required, also, this clutch has what they call SX Coat, which is the black coating seen on the metal plates. Ordinary Carbon Twin/Triple plate clutches require extensive and very fussy running in, they also need warming up each time you use them. The SX Coat allows you to fit the clutch and use it immediately with none of that messing around.
What do you think?
Incidentally, the Compe-R is now for sale. I will post it in the For Sale section on here incase any of the PassionEvo owners want a serious clutch. These are around Ł1400 new.
I don't even want to tell you what the Carbon-R cost!!
Oh, the joys of 650bhp.
Now, wheres the rest of the boost.
