Chip

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Here is a video of some fool in a crappy old astra van with a snotty saab engine in it that he built for about 500 quid trying to drag race an allegedly 400bhp Mk2 Focus RS, as if the van driver thought he stood a chance?

BM08

er the snotty old astra van beat it? or am i missing something

It's Czech Mate

Looks fun, but I'd much rather drive the focus home

Csm

lol

Still it is a crappy old astra van at the end of the day lol

Chip

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Fair points, lol

Chip

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Billy_RS

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lol!

BM08

I get it now that ive actually read what you said in the first post

trev1964

Awesome.
Now that's a sleeper.

stu21t

Im guessing the saab engines are starting to become popular concersions now then.

I guess matt had i right all them years ago chip lol

RC4

rsturbolee

are they quite tuneable then? older engines or the later ones, i have a 04 2.0 turbo convertable

Chip

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rsturbolee, very tuneable mate, even the later ones, although its generally the earlier B204/B234 ones the vauxhall lads use.

Fiesta_Jed

I have see that van in falkirk before, My first thought was wtf until i seen the intercooler

I thought it had a C20LET

Do the sabb engines offer significantly better internal geometry and a beter flowing head to make them worth fitting over a C20LET ?

Chip

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Internal geometry on a LET is pretty good, and the head flow isnt bad either TBH, so thats not really the issue, but they are expensive and the turbos are quite fragile if used flat out and expensive to replace, and the rods arent strong.
Saab comes with a T3 or T2 flange, and has internals that rival a YB for strength.
Saab also has management that can be altered quite simply to become home remappable.

Eagle

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so when will the "chip" entry be ready then ?
always did wonder if you were gonna try it

Chip

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Hopefully have mine out properly next year with a saab 2.3 in it, I did get it running this year with a saab 2.0 but because (to save cost) im reusing my old GT35R turbo the saab 2.0 spools a bit too late really, it was ok on the mega spec vauxhall engine I had cause although it still spool late the difference was that I was revving it to 8500rpmso I had an extra 1000rpm at the top end, but as I want to do the saab on the cheap I cant rev it that far (need solid lifters etc) so im hoping more capacity will bring the revs in sooner and mean that the extra rpm at the top end arent needed.

Just got a monster lack of time at the moment though, seem to be spending all my weekends working rather than getting on with my cars, and also TBH what little time I do have for cars I would sooner spend on the clio, the nova is one of those "on the back burner, it will be done when its done" kind of cars as Ive got no real need for it anyway, but the clio we want out and at trackdays as soon as we can.

takeshiRejs

haha
that is why is life good

Oranoco

Fair play to him I say

Shonky

Chip, which is generally the strongest Saab engine in stock form?

I've got a 250hp B235R on T7 but read the rods are only good for 300hp which is a lot different from the 400/500hp "internet" figures for the B204/B234

Chip

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Shonky, I know far less about the later engines, I have also heard they are weaker, but the rods themselves can be swapped from the B204 into the B235 I believe (not a typo, the 2.0 early rods are same length as later 2.3 ones apparently)

Shonky

Cool, I'll have a look into that. I know the B235R pistons are different to even the B234R so a little mix and match might get me a few more reliable hp, it's my road car (and is in a Saab for a change lol) so rods, injectors (and possibly fpr), better front mount and a t19 housing should see 300+ hp which is what the 1700kg Gentleman's Express needs lol

Rsmat

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The only difference there was the weight.

rs_traynor

chip the van won

Chip

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Im thinking of using aftermarket forged b235 pistons with a b234 crank and b204 rods, but the worry is that the compression will end up too high.

probably will need to use a b235 head as well, but IIRC the valves are weaker and I cant use volvo valve springs on it so will need to find another solution to the problem ive already solved once of stopping valve bounce, lol

Thicker head gasket might be an alternative solution though!

vroooom ptssssh

Focus was probably at best 320bhp...unless he had a bigger turbo/lowered the CR

Chip

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He told the guy in the van he'd spent a fortune on it and it was 400bhp, but no idea if thats true or not.

Rsmat

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You don't have to lower the C/R to gain 400 in a FRS mk2... Just cooler turbo and injectors...@ 400 the van would still beat it... Purly down to weight and it's less midly power than the Rs.... As can't see them been evenly matched or the van would have pulled more.

Tommen

Those saab engines are not a joke!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMBVzsEWvW4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abTnQ...eature=related

phil_rs

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Love the look of the grey one but 11 sec quarters with 800bhp?

Rod-Tarry

The Terminal appears to be 210kph so around 550bhp on show there.

sheeks

i was at knockhill that day , van ended up beating everything and won a think.