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Old Sep 21, 2008 | 08:26 AM
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Hi peeps

honest opinion please good or bad ,( i am thicked skinned)

firstly

i would like to point out i am not a trader but do sell cheap slicks for hardly any profit at all

secondly

i get any gearboxes/diffs rebuilt for people from the ford sceen i dont take any make a single penny profit from them , i do it for the rs/ford sceen as a club memeber and enthusiast(spelling)

i have had a few of complains form admin by the traders that i am a trader ? or breaking rules and regs

i understand that traders have to pay and it may would seem unfair to people like me not paying traders fee

i persoanlly think that i shouldn't pay traders fee if i not making money (as aliving)and only doing this for the enthusiast by enthusiast

any comments are welcome free to shoot away

cheers marco
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Old Sep 21, 2008 | 08:28 AM
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Sounds fair to me.
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Old Sep 21, 2008 | 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by RS 5tu
Sounds fair to me.
whats fair ?



i have done loads of gearboxes /diffs for people on here and not take a penny of them

im sure they will not many people on this planet does nothing for nothing but i do for the enthusiast by enthusiast

all the rest do it for money and nothing else
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Old Sep 21, 2008 | 08:31 AM
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As you said Marco......YOU DONT DO IT FOR A LIVING AND MAKE NO MONEY FROM IT

You are offering people very good deals on the tyres ect to help out the scene

Beside, if anyone comes to pick the goods up from you yourself........There payment is listening to you talk for a few hours.......Thats payment enough
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Old Sep 21, 2008 | 08:33 AM
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If your making money regardless of the amount then your trading IMO
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Old Sep 21, 2008 | 08:34 AM
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only joking, all it is Marco is people getting a stick up there arse thinking you've made a couple of quid when they havn't, i had the same thing before because i was always selling cars & parts, because i like my cars & get through a lot of them dosn't make me a trader!

everyone i have spoke to about you has said how you go out of your way to help them out, perhaps you should put a poll up, no one can help anybody out for free, as they have cover a traders fee
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Old Sep 21, 2008 | 08:35 AM
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Worth putting any thing in your sig to clarify you aint a trader to the moaner's out there, just as alittle reminder to them all?

Makes a change that someone is willing to give up their own time to help others for the sake of a brand enthusiasium...would be a shame for you to put off by moaners
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Old Sep 21, 2008 | 08:36 AM
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i dont think you should pay a trader fee,
but the admin will probably look at you as a money earner for them.so if they charge you trader fees then you will just have to put that ontop of anything you sell.
more expense for us board users.
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Old Sep 21, 2008 | 08:36 AM
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i think even even mother teresa would struggle to believe your doing a genuine no profit favour for strangers because theyre enthusiasts.
if your selling slicks then you are trading no matter how small the profit.
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Old Sep 21, 2008 | 08:38 AM
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seems fair enough to me BUT can you prove that you are only doing it for the people to help them out etc...and not make anything from it,anyone can say that Marco,so i can see why the traders are having a moan,where do you draw the line....

you are a genuine bloke who will do anything for anyone and i bet you will get told not to carry on and it will be a loss for us all.
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Old Sep 21, 2008 | 08:38 AM
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thats because you dont know me ?
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Originally Posted by dave cos4x4
seems fair enough to me BUT can you prove that you are only doing it for the people to help them out etc...and not make anything from it,anyone can say that Marco,so i can see why the traders are having a moan,where do you draw the line....

you are a genuine bloke who will do anything for anyone and i bet you will get told not to carry on and it will be a loss for us all.
hi dave

yes i can prove it and you know that look at your gearbox you can ask bara how much it exactly was not one penny added on

personally feel knocking the whole lot on the head and just do it for mates thats i know ect


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Old Sep 21, 2008 | 08:40 AM
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You're a trader, you just arent a very good one if you arent making much money on the slicks you sell, thats going to be how its viewed I reckon

Personally I hope they let you continue as you are, but to the letter of the rules, I dont think they can

Will be a real shame if it has to stop
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Old Sep 21, 2008 | 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by marco polo
fuzzy

thats because you dont know me ?
obviously. but then how many members from the 38000 registrered do?
and should the traders fee be dependent on the amount of profit you make?
although if you dont advertise your business on here then it has fook all to do with the mods what you do via pm.
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Old Sep 21, 2008 | 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by marco polo
hi dave

personally feel knocking the whole lot on the head and just do it for mates thats i know ect


marco



i can see that being the only way though Marco.

even if you wanted to carry on on here,treated as a trader etc..you won't be able too as being a trader you need to show proof that you are a legitimate trader,bank accounts vat registered you know....

so you are fooked either way......shame really.
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Old Sep 21, 2008 | 08:47 AM
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No way marco should be considered as a trader. Top man, and as said in this thread : "YOU DONT DO IT FOR A LIVING AND MAKE NO MONEY FROM IT".

Without him I would still try to find a new uprated center VC for my car. Marco is a top bloke, those who says he should be considered as a trader, they never dealed with you !

Just my opinion.

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Old Sep 21, 2008 | 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by marco polo
hi dave

yes i can prove it and you know that look at your gearbox you can ask bara how much it exactly was not one penny added on


marco
i know that Marco....but the traders don't.

they only have your say so that you don't make anything.

can the traders post their veiw on this please as its them who have a go at the mods about you.
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do you advertise your services? if not then its fuck all to do with this site.if you do then your a trader.
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Originally Posted by fuzzy
do you advertise your services? if not then its fuck all to do with this site.if you do then your a trader.

it does not work that way on here.

on here if you sell parts regularly your a trader.
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Originally Posted by fuzzy
do you advertise your services? if not then its fuck all to do with this site.if you do then your a trader.

it does not work that way on here.

on here if you sell parts regularly your a trader.
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Old Sep 21, 2008 | 09:03 AM
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if he doesnt advertise any parts or services but its through word of mouth then the mods can do fuck all.
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Old Sep 21, 2008 | 09:18 AM
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sorry but i have to agree with nath ...

doesnt matter what i think or any other moderator if you are giving a service that you make money from then you are trading..

sorry marco ... i know what you do for others but ...

so what everyone else is saying that if some company appeared on here not offering parts for sale BUT did it by pm or word of mouth then thats ok....


best all our paying traders just stop paying to advertise then as we all now know what they sell or can offer.....
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Old Sep 21, 2008 | 09:23 AM
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if hes not advertising and never has on here whats it got to do with the site? and how do you know and police what he does via pm or phone?
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Old Sep 21, 2008 | 09:27 AM
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hi eagle

fair enough but most of it is through word of mouth

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Marco, just stick a fiver on the price of each tyre, and explain to people its to cover trade fees then pay up, problem solved as im sure no one will mind a fiver extra?
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Old Sep 21, 2008 | 09:30 AM
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he doesnt advertise his gearboxes or tyres for sale on here does he?i was under the impression it was just word of mouth.

i could see where traders would get upset if he is constantly advertising tyres and gearboxes on here for sale-but he doesnt does he? correct me if im wrong.
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Old Sep 21, 2008 | 09:32 AM
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Marco,

Dont bother paying yoru traders fee. Everyone knows you arent here to make money. Plus what difference would it make now if you started paying for trader status? None as people will still contact you regardless. Paul North Yorks isnt a trader anymore but i bet his phone hasnt suddenly stopped ringing as everyone still knows who he is

You made a good name for yourself and you will continue to sell slicks and diff/gboxes regardless of the trader or non trader account you have on here.
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Old Sep 21, 2008 | 09:34 AM
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marco sell them for free then charge them a fee for collection/p&p/delivery at Łxx a tyre to cover your costs you are not breaking any rules then,

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Old Sep 21, 2008 | 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Chip
Marco, just stick a fiver on the price of each tyre, and explain to people its to cover trade fees then pay up, problem solved as im sure no one will mind a fiver extra?

hi chip

you will be suppised how many will not pay the extra fiver to cover cost

it's not as if i sell shite loads to justfi the costs

if i was making fortune i would gladly pay the money not a problem at all

and to be honest the slicks that i sell are to people that i know word of mouth

i did have a post on here which has been on this forum since 2002 and has been going since untill recentlly and now has been deleted

no problem i do undertsand that traders are moaning because i have not paid my way ,they have.

in all fairness to the traders they do offer a service and thats their living so it is in the best interest that they do advirtise

they can reclaim the money back from the tax man as advertising

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Old Sep 21, 2008 | 09:53 AM
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i have never seen you trading on here marco but i have seen people sending others your way and as said above that is via pm so nothing to do with mods
if you were blaitantly shoutig about that you sell tyres and gearboxes i would see their point
and the cost of traders fee's now is pricey too !!

thats my opinion
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Old Sep 21, 2008 | 09:56 AM
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Marco, your not a trader, al you do is distribute the parts for local suppliers to you.

e.g, you collect a gearbox from Bara and deliver it to the customer, all you are is a go-between ! you dont own the parts your distrubuting, your not making any money from them, so your not a trader. the inland revenue would nto have a problem with that what so ever.
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Old Sep 21, 2008 | 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by J1mbo
i have never seen you trading on here marco but i have seen people sending others your way and as said above that is via pm so nothing to do with mods
if you were blaitantly shoutig about that you sell tyres and gearboxes i would see their point
and the cost of traders fee's now is pricey too !!

thats my opinion
hi jim


the only thing i had on the whole of the passion ford site was a post touring car tyres which had been on here since "2002" before all this trader stuff started this was before the boom ........lol..

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i dont see the issue. if your not advertising then theres no issue. the traders are paying the fee to advertise their services, your not advertising so you have no fee to pay.
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Originally Posted by marco polo
hi jim


the only thing i had on the whole of the passion ford site was a post touring car tyres which had been on here since "2002" before all this trader stuff started this was before the boom ........lol..

marco

yeah i did see that and you have helped soo many people out through that ! including the old man !!!

its a shame really as alot of people who dont know you are going to lose out on very good and cheap slicks for their trackdays
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Marco does what he does for the love, not for the cash. He is not a trader.

Any part worn 15" slicks that will fit a 6" rim mate?
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Originally Posted by markk
Marco, your not a trader, al you do is distribute the parts for local suppliers to you.

e.g, you collect a gearbox from Bara and deliver it to the customer, all you are is a go-between ! you dont own the parts your distrubuting, your not making any money from them, so your not a trader. the inland revenue would nto have a problem with that what so ever.
This is how I seet it!!

Any profit from the slicks must only go towards covering transportation costs surely?
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Havnt read all the posts but its a piss take TBH.

Marco is one of the most genuine lads i have ever met, he will go out of his way to help anyone, and thats all he does cause he loves the scene, nothing else. He doesnt make money. Besides, so what if he did make a few quid nown again, the lad runs round like a blue arse fly for alot of people.
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Originally Posted by fuzzy
if hes not advertising and never has on here whats it got to do with the site? and how do you know and police what he does via pm or phone?

he has advertised on here in the past as he has admitted... and it has been removed as i looked earlier ...

but if someone pm'd you and said i got a *insert part* it's 150 quid and you needed it ... you pay the person and it never arrives ... (and it has happened) everyones quickly onto the mods and admin saying they have been ripped off by *insert name* do something about it .. you should have banned him for trading via pm's etc etc etc ... so no matter if we enforce the rules or turn a blind eye we still end up being in the wrong...


so do we just say stuff it anyone can trade freely ?????

and no im not saying marco is in anyway like the point i have made above before anyone gets the wrong idea...
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Old Sep 21, 2008 | 11:22 AM
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so even though marcos not advertising anything for sale or service you expect him to still pay fees.
i dont know the guy or what he does but what exactly are you expecting of him?
at what point does a gold member have to become a trader anyway?
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Originally Posted by Shorty
Havnt read all the posts but its a piss take TBH.

Marco is one of the most genuine lads i have ever met, he will go out of his way to help anyone, and thats all he does cause he loves the scene, nothing else. He doesnt make money. Besides, so what if he did make a few quid nown again, the lad runs round like a blue arse fly for alot of people.
Just about sums it up Marco has helped me out lots in the past, and a few mates as well. Top top bloke who lives and breathes Fords, and isn't in it for what he can make out of people.

Some of the traders on here need to stop being so greedy and moaning about the smallest thing
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